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@Tr1x24 I think they MAY have been, I never said they were. IIRC Criollo said something similar once.
Obviously it's just a take/possibility, I'm not pushing for any conspiracy theories. Kruger does this all the time after all, even going to a point they'd separate coalition partners, drop one in an area and the other in a complete different area, or dropping males in areas with high poachers activity where the lions disappear. So idk why you're acting like this is something absurd, especially since apparently there were reports of lions escaping Kruger at the time, which could very well have been the Tumbelas.  (04-18-2024, 10:45 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I think they MAY have been, I never said they were. IIRC Criollo said something similar once. I dont think something like that would pass unnoticed in Sabi Sands, local rangers/guides/reserves would have info about that.    (04-19-2024, 01:22 AM)BA0701 Wrote: didn't you say that Solo had actually attacked and ousted a male from the pride he controlled, then when he lost his own partner, Solo joined up with that same male?I believe he was refering to the Kruger male, called 'Freddy' by many. In fact Solo and the partner he lost (Cleo Sparta, killed by two of the Selatis) were unable to oust Freddy, they both left the South and went West, where the Selatis defeated them. The Kruger male remained dominant until the pressure from different coalitions at southern Sabi Sand caught up to him, then at some point Solo and him joined. Im not sure about the whole story tho. Hopefully someone can keep us up.  (04-18-2024, 10:53 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Furthermore, the translocation, if it was done for the safety of these lions, would have been posted by the reserves on social media and thus the public would have known about it.(04-18-2024, 10:45 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I think they MAY have been, I never said they were. IIRC Criollo said something similar once.  (04-19-2024, 04:39 AM)Rabubi Wrote:(04-18-2024, 10:53 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Furthermore, the translocation, if it was done for the safety of these lions, would have been posted by the reserves on social media and thus the public would have known about it.(04-18-2024, 10:45 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I think they MAY have been, I never said they were. IIRC Criollo said something similar once. Don’t be so sure. The “suspicions “ that the Tumbelas were translocated gained prominence BECAUSE they were never seen enroute towards the west. Their name derives for their “supposed” stealth behavior through the night. We of course cannot assert this happened, but I have absolutely heard many intimate this was plausible. Some very reliable sources actually. (04-19-2024, 06:10 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: The “suspicions “ that the Tumbelas were translocated gained prominence BECAUSE they were never seen enroute towards the west. Their name derives for their “supposed” stealth behavior through the night. Lions can easily enter that area without being spotted on the way, its like few hours walk from Kruger or Manyeleti. Didnt Gingerella and 1 of her brothers returned from south in Kruger, travel thru all Sabi Sands without being spotted. Even Skorro Tumbela traveled to Manyeleti and back without being spotted in the north by anyone. Also, their "stealth" skittish behavior is another reason why they where not spotted. 
You never know but these lions travel far distances really quick when they want especially a nomadic lion look at nkuhuma male he pops up everywhere whenever lol southern black dam makes traveled all the way from timbavati seen in manyeleti then seen in western sabi sands I believe. Speaking of the southern black dam males when did they split from their brothers?
 (04-19-2024, 01:55 AM)Ngonya Wrote: In fact Solo and the partner he lost (Cleo Sparta, killed by two of the Selatis) were unable to oust Freddy, they both left the South and went West,They left after the Sand River males entered the scene. Solo and Cleo were unable to force out Freddy, but so was the other way around and the both parties ended up sharing the same territory. 
Sunset April 19, Sabi Sands are Cedric Dold & Panda Glits virtual clips they took earlier 2 lions chased off Black dam males from Torchwood to Djuma
One of the two Mantimahle males  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author
 (04-18-2024, 10:53 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(04-18-2024, 10:45 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I think they MAY have been, I never said they were. IIRC Criollo said something similar once. Here in California the huge massive city of Los Angeles and surrounding area is big mountain lion habitat and there’s hardly any sightings. P22 is a famous lion that crossed a bunch of huge freeways and had the Hollywood sign as his territory. There’s hiking, camping, movie filming etc and P22 was very rarely seen. If a 120lb (65kg) Puma can hide in one of the biggest cities then it’s totally possible for lions to sneak around and avoid being seen. They really just need to avoid the roads and they are invisible. *This image is copyright of its original author Wasn’t the Nharu pride discovered only at the start of 2020? (04-20-2024, 07:27 AM)Timbavati Wrote: Sunset April 19, Sabi Sands are Cedric Dold & Panda Glits virtual clips they took earlier 2 lions chased off Black dam males from Torchwood to Djuma About time we finally see evidence of this chase. Do they show the BDs also? |
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