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( This post was last modified: 11-29-2023, 07:58 AM by KM600 )

(11-29-2023, 06:55 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I love the Kambula pride and coalition, but unfortunately unless the PCM manage to send a strong massage now where they still possibly can, they'll be relying fully on luck regarding their status as dominant males of the west, same goes for their prides, if the PCM doesn't defend them strongly from the Kambulas now, they'll be relying on luck, meaning Kambulas deciding to take over some other place.

When they seemingly followed the Kambula YMs and their sister into Londolozi the other day, I seen a comment from someone who seemed to be a guide and they said that the Ndzhenga males were in the area aswell as the Kambula YMs and Talamati YMs. I don’t know if the Kambulas went back to Londolozi after being around Singita and this led to the PCMs following and since then both have returned back West or if the Kambula YMs and their sister have been in Londolozi since as the reports come out at similar times. First instance would be better for the PCMs as they’re atleast making their presence known although not in the way best way possible to deal with such a strong, upcoming coalition but if the Kambula YMs and sister have went back to the West already then trouble is brewing quicker than we had expected. Also worth noting the PCMs are going thru something similar the BDMs went thru, they can’t send a strong message if the intruders doesn’t give them a chance.
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I think if the circumstances are right the 2 Nwaswishaka Boys have no quoms to deal with the 2 PC Boys. I don't think they'll think twice about confronting them and sending a message especially if the PC Boys aren't in their exact territory.  They have a big pride to loose here.
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(11-29-2023, 12:27 PM)BigLion39 Wrote: I think if the circumstances are right the 2 Nwaswishaka Boys have no quoms to deal with the 2 PC Boys. I don't think they'll think twice about confronting them and sending a message especially if the PC Boys aren't in their exact territory.  They have a big pride to loose here.

If PCMs want more territory in Londolozi, Ndzhengas would be smart to let them have it, aside from the fact I think the PCMs are the stronger coalition, I don’t think they’d push far enough East to trouble the Kambula Pride while they control 3 other prides. Sure the PCMs would get more females controlling a bigger part of Londolozi but they’d also be targeted by all the nomadic coalitions or males in the area.
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Southern Black Dam males and Nkuhuma pride.




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(11-29-2023, 01:59 PM)KM600 Wrote: If PCMs want more territory in Londolozi, Ndzhengas would be smart to let them have it, aside from the fact I think the PCMs are the stronger coalition

Theres no evidence for us to assume that PCMs are stronger as a duo then Ndhzengas.
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(11-29-2023, 08:24 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(11-29-2023, 01:59 PM)KM600 Wrote: If PCMs want more territory in Londolozi, Ndzhengas would be smart to let them have it, aside from the fact I think the PCMs are the stronger coalition

Theres no evidence for us to assume that PCMs are stronger as a duo then Ndhzengas.
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(11-29-2023, 08:24 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(11-29-2023, 01:59 PM)KM600 Wrote: If PCMs want more territory in Londolozi, Ndzhengas would be smart to let them have it, aside from the fact I think the PCMs are the stronger coalition

Theres no evidence for us to assume that PCMs are stronger as a duo then Ndhzengas.

Was purely from a theoretical way of thinking.
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@BigLion39 It remains to be seen if the PCM will keep pushing on Londolozi, if so it'll be interesting to see how the Ndhzengas react.

The ranger thought the PCM were probably chasing the Ndhzengas, but it was speculation, they might have been chasing them, some other lions or nobody really.

I find it difficult to imagine the PCM running from 2 charging males given how confident they were with Tumbelas and Birminghams, and how one of them chased both Tumbela and NK. But who knows.

If it comes down to a physical fight, PCM would have the advantage IMO, they were always with meaningful facial scars from competing for mating rights back in the day so I'd imagine they have a "stronger" experience fighting, plus they're bigger and more powerful, still anything could happen.

The more likely scenario is that both coalitions will never even meet each other.
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(11-29-2023, 11:46 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @BigLion39 It remains to be seen if the PCM will keep pushing on Londolozi, if so it'll be interesting to see how the Ndhzengas react.

The ranger thought the PCM were probably chasing the Ndhzengas, but it was speculation, they might have been chasing them, some other lions or nobody really.

I find it difficult to imagine the PCM running from 2 charging males given how confident they were with Tumbelas and Birminghams, and how one of them chased both Tumbela and NK. But who knows.

If it comes down to a physical fight, PCM would have the advantage IMO, they were always with meaningful facial scars from competing for mating rights back in the day so I'd imagine they have a "stronger" experience fighting, plus they're bigger and more powerful, still anything could happen.

The more likely scenario is that both coalitions will never even meet each other.

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No what?
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(11-30-2023, 03:49 AM)afortich Wrote:




Are they in KNP rn?
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(11-30-2023, 09:34 AM)KM600 Wrote:
(11-30-2023, 03:49 AM)afortich Wrote:




Are they in KNP rn?

Not sure buddy.
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(11-30-2023, 10:50 AM)afortich Wrote:
(11-30-2023, 09:34 AM)KM600 Wrote:
(11-30-2023, 03:49 AM)afortich Wrote:




Are they in KNP rn?

Not sure buddy.

Just checked they’re in Sabi Sands, hopefully they’ll leave the South and settle down somewhere without the threat of the Nkhulu males.
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