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Lions of Sabi Sands

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(03-01-2022, 03:01 PM)DARK MANE Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 02:36 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Torchwood female and cubs


These 4 cubs are different from those 7 cubs mentioned in the mala mala january report. 
Also, till now why no name is given to Torchwood pride males ( as all males of sabi sands got their individual name) and i have even heard that they are sons of Stompie and One Eye ( though I am not sure, someone pls cnfm). 
Today only I came to know the individual names of PC males, Thor and Lightening, is it correct??

Typically no lions in the Sabi Sands get official personal names except the Birmingham males who were named by WildEarth years ago. Apparently other folks in the Sabi Sands were unhappy about it so they never did it again. Most lions just receive descriptive monikers to aid in identification (blonde-mane, dark-mane, mohawk-mane, purple-eye, silver-eye etc)

Names like Nguvu, Ubosu, Amahle and now "Thor" and "Lightning" are just facebook names 

I've heard about about the one-eye and stompie thing but I'm not sure, the younger torchwood male seems too young to be their son. He looks around 8 whereas he should be 13-ish if he was their son
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(03-01-2022, 03:09 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Typically no lions in the Sabi Sands get official personal names except the Birmingham males who were named by WildEarth years ago. Apparently other folks in the Sabi Sands were unhappy about it so they never did it again. Most lions just receive descriptive monikers to aid in identification (blonde-mane, dark-mane, mohawk-mane, purple-eye, silver-eye etc)

Names like Nguvu, Ubosu, Amahle and now "Thor" and "Lightning" are just facebook names 

I've heard about about the one-eye and stompie thing but I'm not sure, the younger torchwood male seems too young to be their son. He looks around 8 whereas he should be 13-ish if he was their son

Who name them Thor and Lightning?
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(03-01-2022, 06:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 03:09 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Typically no lions in the Sabi Sands get official personal names except the Birmingham males who were named by WildEarth years ago. Apparently other folks in the Sabi Sands were unhappy about it so they never did it again. Most lions just receive descriptive monikers to aid in identification (blonde-mane, dark-mane, mohawk-mane, purple-eye, silver-eye etc)

Names like Nguvu, Ubosu, Amahle and now "Thor" and "Lightning" are just facebook names 

I've heard about about the one-eye and stompie thing but I'm not sure, the younger torchwood male seems too young to be their son. He looks around 8 whereas he should be 13-ish if he was their son

Who name them Thor and Lightning?

Some user on the lions of kruger national park FB group held a poll and "Thor" and "loki" were the top choices (100 people voted out of 50000 members).
I've only seen one person use those names though, and Loki became Lightning it seems lol
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(03-01-2022, 06:56 PM)Tonpa Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 06:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 03:09 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Typically no lions in the Sabi Sands get official personal names except the Birmingham males who were named by WildEarth years ago. Apparently other folks in the Sabi Sands were unhappy about it so they never did it again. Most lions just receive descriptive monikers to aid in identification (blonde-mane, dark-mane, mohawk-mane, purple-eye, silver-eye etc)

Names like Nguvu, Ubosu, Amahle and now "Thor" and "Lightning" are just facebook names 

I've heard about about the one-eye and stompie thing but I'm not sure, the younger torchwood male seems too young to be their son. He looks around 8 whereas he should be 13-ish if he was their son

Who name them Thor and Lightning?

Some user on the lions of kruger national park FB group held a poll and "Thor" and "loki" were the top choices (100 people voted out of 50000 members).
I've only seen one person use those names though, and Loki became Lightning it seems lol

Yeah those are Fb names.  Same as Osindile for YBM.  not sure these will spread around (they don’t seem very popular even among the fb followers) like those of Osindile and Nguvu did. Those names have an African translation that’s sensible.   Not sure Thor and Lighting are seen the same way.  Hehehe 

While the reserves seldom name individual lions, they do routinely name coalitions.   So it does beg the question regarding the PCM, and Others.  I do suspect they will eventually get a coalition name (like Singita gave the Nwalungu)   

Similarly, I await a decision (probably late in the year) for an official name to the Nkuhuma Breakaways (Ridge Nose and Amber Eyes).
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(03-01-2022, 07:07 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Yeah those are Fb names.  Same as Osindile for YBM.  not sure these will spread around (they don’t seem very popular even among the fb followers) like those of Osindile and Nguvu did. Those names have an African translation that’s sensible.   Not sure Thor and Lighting are seen the same way.  Hehehe 

While the reserves seldom name individual lions, they do routinely name coalitions.   So it does beg the question regarding the PCM, and Others.  I do suspect they will eventually get a coalition name (like Singita gave the Nwalungu)   

Similarly, I await a decision (probably late in the year) for an official name to the Nkuhuma Breakaways (Ridge Nose and Amber Eyes).

Yea, those names sound more like a ZOO names. 

Btw, Talamatis are back north, seen on WildEarth.
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I dont like the nwaswishaka individual names that were given to them, i prefer the old descriptive names
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Yeah the Nws names are pretty bad. Uboso just means face...
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1/2 PC males and Amber Eyes 
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1/2 PC males
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Talamatis today on Djuma




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(02-03-2022, 11:14 PM)Tonpa Wrote: @peter 

Any thoughts Peter? Would you be okay with us opening threads for individual, well-followed Prides?

All, @Lycaon  , @"Timbavati" , and myself have discussed this. Attempting to considate the existing threads, pulling out which post would belong in which thread would be a logistical nightmare. It could also harm continuity of the conversations. Not to mention that it would be placing a very large amount of work onto our Webmaster.

Therefore, we have decided to keep the status quo for the time being.
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New Release from @EverseenSA of a TBT w The Talamati and The Legend Silvereye.





I took a few screenshots of the Male here.   @Tonpa and @Tr1x24 can you guys verify which?   I believe it’s the dark mane sub?

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The problem is that the current system is inconsequent, hard to keep track of and reinforces the idea that most fans are here too see bloody gladiator fights.

You cant just greenlight every thread for every insignificant coalition. And then lumb every pride, which are far more important in just one thread as suddenly its to much work.

Either do both or none
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(03-01-2022, 08:12 PM)Hairy tummy Wrote: I dont like the nwaswishaka individual names that were given to them, i prefer the old descriptive names

I concur. Over time I just got used to them. There was ofc bit of an issue, when the Dominant Male (aka Amahle) without prominent markers turned out might not be so dominant as te hierarchay has seemed fluid and except Gore all seemed to express seemingly dominant behaviour (Orange Eyes was perhaps rather grumpy than dominant). Wide Nose turned out to be older that we thought, and is doing well (the mock mating among the 3, he was in top position for example). Back to Amahle - even today we could cal him Dark Mane perhaps and that is chracteristic that gets repeated in other colaition and would lead to confusion.

This is also I tend to bi biased towards specimen with unique appearance and markers as they can be easier differentiated from others and provide suitable nicknames organically.
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(03-01-2022, 07:07 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 06:56 PM)Tonpa Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 06:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 03:09 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Typically no lions in the Sabi Sands get official personal names except the Birmingham males who were named by WildEarth years ago. Apparently other folks in the Sabi Sands were unhappy about it so they never did it again. Most lions just receive descriptive monikers to aid in identification (blonde-mane, dark-mane, mohawk-mane, purple-eye, silver-eye etc)

Names like Nguvu, Ubosu, Amahle and now "Thor" and "Lightning" are just facebook names 

I've heard about about the one-eye and stompie thing but I'm not sure, the younger torchwood male seems too young to be their son. He looks around 8 whereas he should be 13-ish if he was their son

Who name them Thor and Lightning?

Some user on the lions of kruger national park FB group held a poll and "Thor" and "loki" were the top choices (100 people voted out of 50000 members).
I've only seen one person use those names though, and Loki became Lightning it seems lol

Yeah those are Fb names.  Same as Osindile for YBM.  not sure these will spread around (they don’t seem very popular even among the fb followers) like those of Osindile and Nguvu did. Those names have an African translation that’s sensible.   Not sure Thor and Lighting are seen the same way.  Hehehe 

While the reserves seldom name individual lions, they do routinely name coalitions.   So it does beg the question regarding the PCM, and Others.  I do suspect they will eventually get a coalition name (like Singita gave the Nwalungu)   

Similarly, I await a decision (probably late in the year) for an official name to the Nkuhuma Breakaways (Ridge Nose and Amber Eyes).

I guess in case of Nguvu and Osindile, those got adapted more beacause a) they had bit of an above average following due to their story and/or appearance b) there were other individuals growing up that would be Othawa (Young) Males or Brimingham Young Males respectively so often one just wrote Othawa Male (Nguvu) anyway normalizing the name further. Although the abbreviations like BYM seems to be a decent work around as well, if those lions gets reffered to just by them over time.
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