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(08-13-2020, 01:48 AM)sik94 Wrote: Tbh the Mhangeni pride is a bit of a trap for him, its safe but he might become another Solo. He needs to become nomadic so he can find a few partners, then try to get a territory he can actually defend with his gang. If he stays a dominant male he won't let another male join him, which leaves him very vulnerable.
Lions are animals afterall, they are not capable of logical thinking like we do, they mostly operate on instincts..
Theres no example of lion purposely leaving his pride to become nomadic so he can find partners, this is not a movie..
Obviously I am not saying he needs to logically come up with this plan, that would be preposterous. I am just saying that if circumstances had not given him this opportunity to become the dominant male of the Mhangeni pride so early on, he would be more successful as a territorial lion.
(08-13-2020, 01:48 AM)sik94 Wrote: Tbh the Mhangeni pride is a bit of a trap for him, its safe but he might become another Solo. He needs to become nomadic so he can find a few partners, then try to get a territory he can actually defend with his gang. If he stays a dominant male he won't let another male join him, which leaves him very vulnerable.
But, Solo was a member of several coalitions, possibly more than any other lion that has been documented. Solo was incredibly resourceful.
(08-13-2020, 01:48 AM)sik94 Wrote: Tbh the Mhangeni pride is a bit of a trap for him, its safe but he might become another Solo. He needs to become nomadic so he can find a few partners, then try to get a territory he can actually defend with his gang. If he stays a dominant male he won't let another male join him, which leaves him very vulnerable.
But, Solo was a member of several coalitions, possibly more than any other lion that has been documented. Solo was incredibly resourceful.
I meant in terms of success, solo was a very adaptable lion but he didn't have much success of holding onto territories and fathering cubs.
(08-13-2020, 01:48 AM)sik94 Wrote: Tbh the Mhangeni pride is a bit of a trap for him, its safe but he might become another Solo. He needs to become nomadic so he can find a few partners, then try to get a territory he can actually defend with his gang. If he stays a dominant male he won't let another male join him, which leaves him very vulnerable.
But, Solo was a member of several coalitions, possibly more than any other lion that has been documented. Solo was incredibly resourceful.
I meant in terms of success, solo was a very adaptable lion but he didn't have much success of holding onto territories and fathering cubs.
Ahh, ok, apologies for the misunderstanding. You are absolutely correct, I'm not sure we've seen a more adaptable and resourceful lion. He, along with Cleo ran Freddy away from the Selati pride, then later formed a coalition with Freddy after Cleo was killed.
08-13-2020, 04:47 PM( This post was last modified: 08-13-2020, 06:12 PM by Alex Morala )
Ranger Brandon saying the Matimba Male cannot battle at this age and in his present condition. He cannot stand on his back legs and thus cannot use his both front paws fully in a fight when head to head. He has never seen Matimba use his both paws to scratch a tree which lions usually do to stretch/warm up after a sleep.
The Matimba can only intimidate others using his experience.
Says he did intimidate the Othawa Male 5 months ago while roaring coming in from 5 kilometers away, instead of coming in silence to attack the Othawa Male. The Othawa male got intimidated and ran away.
And did the same with the 3 young males 3 days ago.
08-13-2020, 05:29 PM( This post was last modified: 08-13-2020, 05:38 PM by Tr1x24 )
(08-13-2020, 04:47 PM)Alex Morala Wrote: Ranger Brandon saying the Matimba Male cannot fight at this age and in his present condition. He cannot stand on his back legs and thus cannot use his both front paws in a fight when head to head.
Wth is this explanation??
By that logic no limping male cant fight?? Nonsense..
I've seen limping males best healthy males in a scrap/fight..
Ofc that at his age he will avoid fights and try to intimidiate other males thru roars.. Fighting at his age is very dangerous for him and can be fatal, but saying that he cant fight is rubish, if he needs to he will fight..
08-13-2020, 05:34 PM( This post was last modified: 08-13-2020, 05:35 PM by Alex Morala )
The Matimba Male can barely move his better leg and drags the second one while walking. The front part of his too heavy to put his entire weight on weak back legs. If you remember the Matshapiri Male put his vulnerable back part into a Bush faced the two Avoca males on Londolzi.
08-13-2020, 05:39 PM( This post was last modified: 08-13-2020, 05:41 PM by Tr1x24 )
(08-13-2020, 05:34 PM)Alex Morala Wrote: The Matimba Male can barely move his better leg and drags the second one while walking. The front part of his too heavy to put his entire weight on weak back legs. If you remember the Matshapiri Male put his vulnerable back part into a Bush faced the two Avoca males on Londolzi.
Is this new? He was fine just 1,2 weeks ago on Savanna vlog..on latest vlog he wasnt walking so we couldn't see..
Matimba Male is over 15 years now he is not getting any better. He will be getting worse with each passing day. Rangers know better as they have seen and witnessed such events many times.
" Early this morning we heard a male lion vocalising quite close to the lodge, so we made our way towards the area. Not too far away, we found 4 male lions on the move… trailing a herd of buffalo and moving closer and closer with every step. They attempted to hunt but with no luck. They then rested as they let the herd settle down and move off a little but kept in proximity to the buffalo. No doubt they will attempt another hunt again this afternoon. "
(08-13-2020, 05:54 PM)Spalea Wrote: " Early this morning we heard a male lion vocalising quite close to the lodge, so we made our way towards the area. Not too far away, we found 4 male lions on the move… trailing a herd of buffalo and moving closer and closer with every step. They attempted to hunt but with no luck. They then rested as they let the herd settle down and move off a little but kept in proximity to the buffalo. No doubt they will attempt another hunt again this afternoon. "
These boys look more and more impressive with each passing day. The manes of the 2 healthier males are already darkening, especially that of Dominant Nws (you could easily pass him off as a pride male at first glance).
