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12-27-2024, 08:34 PM( This post was last modified: 12-28-2024, 01:07 AM by Tr1x24 )
(12-27-2024, 05:23 PM)Guillermo94 Wrote: All seven Avoca male lions and Girrafe male lions had different fathers from, Ross male lions and old Avoca male lions.
No, old Avoca/Giraffe males are sired by 3 Old Ross/Giraffe males.
Current Ross males, Tyson and Fabio are sired by different 2 Old Ross males, called "Tyson and Fabio", current Ross males inherit names (and behavior) of their fathers.
So, around 2005 -2010's in Timbavati - Orpen area we had Old Skybeds (fathers of Matimbas and Skybeds), Old Ross/Giraffes (fathers of Old Avoca/Giraffes), Old Ross males (fathers of Ross males), Old Birminghams (fathers of Birmingham males).
(12-27-2024, 05:23 PM)Guillermo94 Wrote: All seven Avoca male lions and Girrafe male lions had different fathers from, Ross male lions and old Avoca male lions.
No, old Avoca/Giraffe males are sired by 2 Old Ross/Giraffe males.
Current Ross males, Tyson and Fabio are sired by different 2 Old Ross males, called "Good and Bad" and "Tyson and Fabio", current Ross males inherit names (and behavior) of their fathers.
So, around 2005 -2010's in Timbavati - Orpen area we had Old Skybeds (fathers of Matimbas and Skybeds), Old Ross/Giraffes (fathers of Old Avoca/Giraffes), Old Ross males (fathers of Ross males), Old Birminghams (fathers of Birmingham males).
Ok. I was trying to understand; Ross male lions relatives. Thank you.
(12-30-2024, 01:15 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: I really hope the 5th monwana male joins his brothers they could bring some much much needed genetics to manyeleti and maybe even the nkuhuma pride
Are Monwana genetics that different from the Birmingham pride ( in comparison with Nharu and Mbiri prides)
(12-30-2024, 01:15 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: I really hope the 5th monwana male joins his brothers they could bring some much much needed genetics to manyeleti and maybe even the nkuhuma pride
Are Monwana genetics that different from the Birmingham pride ( in comparison with Nharu and Mbiri prides)
I’m gonna be honest I don’t know but I don’t think they’re related to Birmingham prides massive lineage since the mbiri and nharu pride have a bit of an problem with that but it’s no serious yet
12-30-2024, 03:18 AM( This post was last modified: 12-30-2024, 03:19 AM by Tr1x24 )
(12-30-2024, 01:27 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: Are Monwana genetics that different from the Birmingham pride ( in comparison with Nharu and Mbiri prides)
Yea they are.
Mapoza (unknown genes from Kruger) and Xikukutsus (Avoca/Giraffe and 3 Old Ross males genes) have no relation to Birmingham pride as far as i know.
As from Monwana pride side, this pride origins from Thornybush, so its prob closer to Black Dam pride genetics wise and Thornybush was fenced from Timbavati not long ago .
(12-30-2024, 01:27 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: Are Monwana genetics that different from the Birmingham pride ( in comparison with Nharu and Mbiri prides)
Yea they are.
Mapoza (unknown genes from Kruger) and Xikukutsus (Avoca/Giraffe and 3 Old Ross males genes) have no relation to Birmingham pride as far as i know.
As from Monwana pride side, this pride origins from Thornybush, so its prob closer to Black Dam pride genetics wise and Thornybush was fenced from Timbavati not long ago .
Speaking of the Xikukutsus, what's going on with them? I've not heard anything on them since they were a coalition with another male. Was it mapoza?
(12-30-2024, 01:27 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: Are Monwana genetics that different from the Birmingham pride ( in comparison with Nharu and Mbiri prides)
Yea they are.
Mapoza (unknown genes from Kruger) and Xikukutsus (Avoca/Giraffe and 3 Old Ross males genes) have no relation to Birmingham pride as far as i know.
As from Monwana pride side, this pride origins from Thornybush, so its prob closer to Black Dam pride genetics wise and Thornybush was fenced from Timbavati not long ago .
(12-30-2024, 05:35 AM)Robot00 Wrote: Speaking of the Xikukutsus, what's going on with them? I've not heard anything on them since they were a coalition with another male. Was it mapoza?
Yes Mapoza, their stepdad.
They moved into Sandrigham few years back, nothing on them since, are they alive or dead, nobody knows.
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12-30-2024, 01:35 PM( This post was last modified: 12-30-2024, 01:36 PM by Robot00 )
(12-30-2024, 12:10 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(12-30-2024, 05:35 AM)Robot00 Wrote: Speaking of the Xikukutsus, what's going on with them? I've not heard anything on them since they were a coalition with another male. Was it mapoza?
Yes Mapoza, their stepdad.
They moved into Sandrigham few years back, nothing on them since, are they alive or dead, nobody knows.
Stepdad?
Arent the xikukutsus from the avoca pride? Mapoza took over the avoca pride? I didn't know about that. They're the younger brothers to the five S.S avocas? No?
I thought the xikukutsus were nomadic and joined up with mapoza and formed a coalition. They then took control of a pride but i don't remember that pride's name.
(12-30-2024, 05:35 AM)Robot00 Wrote: Speaking of the Xikukutsus, what's going on with them? I've not heard anything on them since they were a coalition with another male. Was it mapoza?
Yes Mapoza, their stepdad.
They moved into Sandrigham few years back, nothing on them since, are they alive or dead, nobody knows.
