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Lycaon · 04-01-2019, 10:41 PM

The size of the lions ears, in comparison to the head make me belive she is still a cub.

Here a full grown pendjari lioness for comparison

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~~Luipaard~~ · 04-02-2019, 11:13 AM

I never stated it was a full grown lioness, but it's not a sub-adult. It's a young, adult lioness.

Lycaon · 04-02-2019, 01:13 PM

@~~Luipaard~~ no worries

Anyway some more west african males.

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Sanju · 04-02-2019, 01:35 PM

@Lycaon about the first pic, did you see that subcutaneous vein running side to his neck, that was awesome and gives a feeling or impression about his strength on first sight. That guy hits gym as hard af.

Pckts · 04-02-2019, 03:06 PM

(04-02-2019, 11:13 AM)Luipaard Wrote: I never stated it was a full grown lioness, but it's not a sub-adult. It's a young, adult lioness.

No, it's not. A Lioness around a year old is most certainly a sub adult, neither capable of hunting for itself nor at sexual maturity and still not even half the size of what it'll be when full grown.

~~Luipaard~~ · 04-02-2019, 03:46 PM

(04-02-2019, 03:06 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 11:13 AM)Luipaard Wrote: I never stated it was a full grown lioness, but it's not a sub-adult. It's a young, adult lioness.

No, it's not. A Lioness around a year old is most certainly a sub adult, neither capable of hunting for itself nor at sexual maturity and still not even half the size of what it'll be when full grown.

You're telling me that that particular lioness will double in size? Highly doubt that.

Lycaon · 04-02-2019, 04:13 PM

@Sanju

I did notice the vein. a powerful lion indeed

Pckts · 04-02-2019, 05:12 PM

(04-02-2019, 03:46 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 03:06 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 11:13 AM)Luipaard Wrote: I never stated it was a full grown lioness, but it's not a sub-adult. It's a young, adult lioness.

No, it's not. A Lioness around a year old is most certainly a sub adult, neither capable of hunting for itself nor at sexual maturity and still not even half the size of what it'll be when full grown.

You're telling me that that particular lioness will double in size? Highly doubt that.

At least

~~Luipaard~~ · 04-05-2019, 02:06 PM

(04-02-2019, 05:12 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 03:46 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 03:06 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 11:13 AM)Luipaard Wrote: I never stated it was a full grown lioness, but it's not a sub-adult. It's a young, adult lioness.

No, it's not. A Lioness around a year old is most certainly a sub adult, neither capable of hunting for itself nor at sexual maturity and still not even half the size of what it'll be when full grown.

You're telling me that that particular lioness will double in size? Highly doubt that.
At least

Again, I doubt it becouse here's a male lion who also visited the same place.

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And here's another size comparison between a leopard and a lioness:

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I'm not trying to prove anything, just so you know. The size difference is just smaller in comparison with the South African lionesses who weigh 120-140kg vs an average 60kg male leopard. The lions just tend to be smaller here.

Pckts · 04-05-2019, 04:50 PM

Absolutely Lions are smaller there but even so without knowing the age of the Male shown just based off the single camera trap shot the Male lion looks almost 3 to 4 times the weight of the leopard and 1.5 to 2 times the height and length. If you photoshopped that leopard in front of the lion you'd see the differences much clearer. You also have to remember when looking at camera trap shots they dont relay girth and when comparing a leopard to a lion in body girth it's a completely different ball game.
Again the last Lioness looks young but that leopard definitely looks tall too, very lean though which could help it look taller than it is.

Can you provide the link to these camera trap photos?
Thanks

Lycaon · 04-05-2019, 06:01 PM

Just a counter comparison, between two fully grown male lion and leopard in benin
The lion dwarfs the leopard.

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Lycaon · 04-15-2019, 11:32 AM

Jonas Van de Voorde

Tense

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On the prowl

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Lycaon · 04-23-2019, 05:02 PM

A random assortment of west african lions

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Lycaon · 05-03-2019, 04:26 PM

Rare photo of a pair of lions in Comoe national park . Ivory coast

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Charan Singh · 05-04-2019, 10:41 AM

(04-02-2019, 01:35 PM)Sanju Wrote: @Lycaon about the first pic, did you see that subcutaneous vein running side to his neck, that was awesome and gives a feeling or impression about his strength on first sight. That guy hits gym as hard af.

I saw that vein, but I don't see any lats or good definition around hips, as well front legs aren't broad.
In a lion, strength wise I like to see broad shoulder and strong front legs, well defined lats and hips - with not body part shagging.

Definitely the young chap has genes to be become a ideal specimen when fully grown.

But what really struck me in the photograph was the structures in background (a water tank, a house and another structure ) - seems like these lions are too close to humans.

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