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(03-29-2025, 01:39 AM)Guillermo94 Wrote: Would be good if Black damn male lion and brother and young Avoca stay with Nukhuma lions.
I heavly doubt they could be strong enough to keep Mantimahles and Kambulas away. If they would add another male into their coalition (maybe Kruger male or other Black Dam male) then perhaps they could manage a territory in northern SS.
Very difficult for them to add another member and have the time to bond with him at this point in time.
Other BDM could be an exception because he already knows his brother well, it'd be easier to join in, but it's doubtful if he has it in him to try to be dominant, he is often with a bad limp and was never a confident male.
(03-29-2025, 09:18 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Very difficult for them to add another member and have the time to bond with him at this point in time.
Other BDM could be an exception because he already knows his brother well, it'd be easier to join in, but it's doubtful if he has it in him to try to be dominant, he is often with a bad limp and was never a confident male.
Their less aggressive disposition allowed Mohawk to escape unscathed, on a few occasions, akin to the Othawa take over, when the same thing happened with HB, and he was facing three males.
Speaking of Mohawk, quite concerning there has been no sighting of him in quite some time, though there have been several sightings of his sons, in that time.
(03-29-2025, 09:18 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Very difficult for them to add another member and have the time to bond with him at this point in time.
Other BDM could be an exception because he already knows his brother well, it'd be easier to join in, but it's doubtful if he has it in him to try to be dominant, he is often with a bad limp and was never a confident male.
I can see that happening, would be kind of heart-breaking for the injury-prone S.BDM to be rejected by his brother. He would be the Lambile of the coalition though - it would be a great situation for him, protection and stability from other, healthier and stronger males, but he wouldn't add much to the coalition.
We are already talking about a big what if scenario here but It has been a long time since the weakened BDM is seen in bad condition, he is often looking good and fat, issue is the limp.
Maybe he couldn't help in serious clashes, but in the ideal world where he joins in, he'd need to at least have the confidence to help roaring and intimidating other lions while his brother and Avoca does the heavy lifting, otherwise I doubt they'd have any chance of holding a territory with Sabi Sands' strong duos all around them.
We saw how the old Kruger male was able to trouble the PCM with the help of a old and weakened S.Avoca, while they barely had time to bond. They chased 1 PCM, might have killed a few of their cubs too. I'm pretty sure if S.Avoca was as healthy as KM and had more time to bond, they could have legitimately tried to claim the NK pride.
But KM and S.Avoca were more bold, confident males, full of drive to compete. Most other males aren't like that.
Look at Nkuhuma Birmingham and Skorro. Skorro was like that, NK wasn't, with barely any time together they were trying stuff, which ended up with other coalitions chasing them. NK and Tumbela? The same, barely no time together and they were trying stuff in the south, which ended up with Tumbela permanently retired. Maybe you could add Nhenha too to this list of bolder males who partned with NK.
Now NK is with Talamati for a much longer time and they haven't done anything yet, likely because Talamati has similar personality to NK.
Healthy S.BDM is more of a NK/Talamati and I'm not entirely sure what type of lion Avoca is, so I doubt they'd have it in them to, as a duo, compete with other strong and established duos like Kruger/S.Avoca would have been able to if S.Avoca was healthier and had more time to bond with KM.
K4, roaring at Chitwa Chitwa, in a airstrip i believe.
Although now a limping male and seemingly blind on his right eye, he surely remains the fiercest Kambula brother.
(Yesterday, 11:41 PM)Ngonya Wrote: K4, roaring at Chitwa Chitwa, in a airstrip i believe.
Although now a limping male and seemingly blind on his right eye, he surely remains the fiercest Kambula brother.
Is it a territorial roar, or rather a contact call?
(Yesterday, 11:41 PM)Ngonya Wrote: K4, roaring at Chitwa Chitwa, in a airstrip i believe.
Although now a limping male and seemingly blind on his right eye, he surely remains the fiercest Kambula brother.
Is it a territorial roar, or rather a contact call?
Sounds like a mixture, the contact call seems to be at the start and end of the video. Territorial roar is usually when u hear that grunt from the back of their throat which happens throughout the middle.
His brothers responded further away so seemed the contact call worked.
K4 looking a lot like old DM after he was giving it a second go at being territorial, and also kinda like Khanya with his mane thinned out. I heard after he was beat in the north, he returned to his brothers and they started to bully him quite a bit, always sad hearing that happening, especially with the strongest member.
No doubt in my mind he can bounce back tho.
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(7 hours ago)KM600 Wrote: I heard after he was beat in the north, he returned to his brothers and they started to bully him quite a bit, always sad hearing that happening, especially with the strongest member.
Who is the male lion you are referring here is it DM or K4 or both, cause I have not heard the other Kambula Males bully K4 but have heard that DM was bullied by his brothers when he is not in a good condition/situation.
(7 hours ago)KM600 Wrote: K4 looking a lot like old DM after he was giving it a second go at being territorial, and also kinda like Khanya with his mane thinned out. I heard after he was beat in the north, he returned to his brothers and they started to bully him quite a bit, always sad hearing that happening, especially with the strongest member.
No doubt in my mind he can bounce back tho.
To be honest I think he now more than ever looks like DM Majingilane (his likely grandfather).
And I agree about him bouncing back, I have a sneaking suspicion that he's on the way to regaining his old confidence, though he'll likely carry the limp for the rest of his life. All that inherent and innate 'spunk/fire' doesn't just disappear completely. We saw with Wide Nose N'Waswitshaka that even with his club foot he was still one of the most dominant of the coalition.
(7 hours ago)KM600 Wrote: I heard after he was beat in the north, he returned to his brothers and they started to bully him quite a bit, always sad hearing that happening, especially with the strongest member.
Who is the male lion you are referring here is it DM or K4 or both, cause I have not heard the other Kambula Males bully K4 but have heard that DM was bullied by his brothers when he is not in a good condition/situation.
I would imagine he was referring to K4, as I don't recall DM Avoca being 'beaten in the north', though he was semi-ousted by S8. And I don't recall DM being bullied by Mohawk and Blondie, there was just that video of him being submissive while Mohawk was displaying dominance, which I wouldn't really count as bullying.
