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(Yesterday, 09:43 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I've been talking about Ross males in other thread, so just to give a bit of "hope" here.
Ross males, after years of battling with other territorial males, become fully territorial only around 6 yrs of age, 8 yrs later, they are one of the most successful duos we know of.
The issue with Kablulas isn't that they are unsuccesfull in fighting other coalitions and establishing themselfs as dominant coalition, but that they are not strong and/or confident enough to even try to fight and if that is the issue then they can almost never be successfull unless they will have no competition at all for a long enough peroid of time which is very unlikely especially since they are sticking in one single arena insteed moving around, looking for some easy enough arena to takeover.
Ross males you are comparing them to were different that way they had drive and strenght to become dominant males, just competition at the time was difficult, too dificult to handle for 2 young males. They however tried their best since they were 4 and half years old (so pretty much standard age for males within Kruger to try to establish themselfs as dominant males) when they mated with one of the Avoca females.
Also they did takeover territory at the age of 5, althrough in arena where there were no females at all.