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(11-19-2024, 06:06 AM)Mapokser Wrote: He displays the same behavior as his brothers, just to a smaller degree.
He follows his brothers in their nomadic adventures following buffalo, abandoning their "territory" in the north countless times even when not faced with any opposition.
He tolerates everybody at the dinner table countless times. Yes dominant males sometimes share food with other males, but this is rare and generally when they don't have an overwhelmingly advantage. Kambulas as 4 tolerates everybody and their mothers at the dinner table;
And the most obvious thing, he was only brave enough to confront Red Road when he thought his brother had him at his mercy, when he realized K5 was the lion losing he immediately fled.
Even Mandevu who isn't thought as a particularly powerful male, is seminomadic right now, needed only a 3yo subadult with him to chase RR and his pride off, and back in the day basically as a solo male he'd invade, challenge and fight RR. K4 couldn't challenge RR with his prime littermate already fighting the guy.
Maybe K4 is territorial ready, if you give him a free territory without any threats, he'd possibly stick to it, but he doesn't have what it takes to be a pride male if he is to be confronted by enemies.
Another brother at his level wouldn't magically make him be able to stand to Mantimahle or PCM, just because Ndhzengas did it, doesn't mean two K4s could as well, not every territorial ready male is equal.
BDM were territorial for a year, in their prime, 2 brothers, do you think they would hold off PCM and Mantimahle who are stronger than Kambulas, the lions that ousted the BDM? Just because BDM were territorial ready?
That's my point... K4 is physically impressive, but his territorial confidence and drive not as much.
Being territorial ready isn't enough, a lion not willing to dominate by luck needs to be territorial ready AND strong to be able to compete with the likes of PCM and Mantimahle.
Edit: he also never helped any of his brothers who were caught despite being around with the other brothers and sister. Even in that famous vid of small 4yo Duba Boys (?) clashing with big prime Monomoholo & Kwandwe, the brother returns to help and attacks one of the enemies, before realizing he had no chance even 1v1.
S. Matimba v 4ways the same thing, the young much smaller 4ways returns and attacks HB from behind, but even 1v1 he didn't stand a chance nor his partner did against Ginger.
Same won't apply here, prime K4 could have easily saved his brothers from similar-sized Gijimas or even PCM because getting attention of at least 1 is enough, since 1v1 between good-sized prime males we know even RR in perfect condition struggles to do much damage.
So we have no reason to believe K4 would do much with another brother at his same page, or even all other 3. All of them must get more confident if they want to he successful, K4 is no exception.
black damn male lions were young. I am not sure how old they were, but weren’t they younger than plain camp male lions and plain camp male lions are younger than Ndhzenga. Black damn male lions were 5 or 6? Kruger male lion when he was around Kambula he stranded and he ran once he saw two, but the young Kambula male lions did not look sure they ran once they saw him run.