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(07-18-2024, 10:40 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: (prob in a similar manner what recently happen with Gijimas vs Nkhulus, and PCMs vs Ndhzengas, where males who entered neighbours territory retreat after facing resistence).
I am not sure about Ndzhenga x Plains Camp, but didn't the PCM dominate much of the chase and just in the end succumbed going back to there territory?
Anyway, in the case of the Nkhulu it was the four who started the chase, they even exchanged blows with the Gijima and resisted, roaring back and eventually retreating to their own territory, where they turned around so the game could change again.
Meanwhile those are coalitions at their prime, Majingilanes were old veterans, full of experience, but still old AND outnumbered. The idea the report gives, it seems like the BBoys quickly retreated with no big reaction such as the ones u mention/compare.
"The Birmingham males wasted no time and made a hasty retreat, leaving their fresh buffalo kill. The Majingi males chased these young males for kilometres before they went back to claim the free meal."
"This month two of the four males got a rude awakening when two of the Majingi males chased them out of their own territory."
Meanwhile this one has no real excuse to 'out of their territory' or something, they just ran away into their own territory.
Similar thing would happen years later when Mohawk Avoca, by himself, chased Birmingham male into his own territory.
The Birmingham was in the company of a Kambula female, and Mohawk claimed her right after chasing the dominant male, in this scenario winning the bigger prize.
I guess win & defeat are indeed not really appropriated terms for these situations, but the fact is, even with the upperhand the Birmingham males never stood against the old Majingilane, who always kept them in line. They didn't Majingilanes trouble to deal with, Majingis, when they had the opportunity, persecuted them with no difficult. Let's be honest, this is a victory for a veteran coalition that from then on was going nowhere but down.
I am curious how did you come up with that. There is enough in the video to say the Plain Camp male lions dominate most of the chase? The Nukhulu male lions were chasing one of the Gijima male lions? Did they go back to Kruger? The Gijima male lions are in their prime ? Are the Nukhulus 7 years old and the Nukhulus are about 6 to 7 years of age?