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John Varty & Tiger Canyon

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( This post was last modified: 03-22-2016, 04:38 AM by peter )

Better. But.

The first advice is to let the facts speak for themselves. Questions and answers would do. When you report, assume all readers are able to count to three. If someone offers opinions all the time, readers feel like chickens being directed to the chopping machine.    

After questions and answers, we need the facts. Money first. Where is his paradise located? How big? Cost? Who paid? Who's the legal owner? Maintenance? Sponsoring? Accountant? What are sponsors offered in return for their money? Have their been complaints?  

After the interview and the money, we want to know about the animals. How many? What species? Do they have their own enclosure? How about the staff? How many? Well-trained? What is it they are doing? What is the aim of Varty? And what is he actually doing? 

When everything has been covered, the time to read has arrived. Is there a blog? Who writes? Anything known about the experiences of sponsors and tourists? What comes out on top when you read? What do you see? 

When you've finished, file a report and allow others to get to an opinion themselves. If you don't, you are leading the witness. 

I know about the Varty's, because I met some. Most are a mixed bag. They often care about nature, but they also often select dangerous animals only. They offer them some kind of security and privacy, but they also like media attention. They will boss many, because it's part of their nature. After some years, they start bossing the animals. In the beginning, there are only victories. Publicity, projects and money too. Then, one day, problems enter. There are arguments first. Then you suddenly see aggressive and dangerous dogs guarding the house. Staff members leave. Bonds are broken. Neighbours start complaining. Financial problems enter and so do laywers. In spite of plenty of help and money, most problems are never solved. Then desperation enters. Weird things start to happen. One day, everything seems to turn against them. In the best scenario, their dreams evaporate and they lose everything they have. In the worst scenario, people get damaged. 

Varty was threatened by some of his tigers. He didn't see it coming and didn't take it seriously. They never do. Then he was attacked. He survived, but forgot about the lesson. Now the tigers fight among themselves. I hope he and his animals will get out without more damage, but the script usually is followed right till the end. It was there when they started, but they never saw it. You can't play Dr. Morrell and expect a happy ending when you work with large carnivores in a way that doesn't suit them. They will tell you, but they are never heard. Those operating in the department of adventures never seem to be aware of the consequences of the game they play. One day, you pay.       

I've learned to refrain from judgements. I'm not a judge. I also refrain from advice in real life. People write their own book. At times, I watch some of the proceedings. When I do, I often see a scenario playing out that could have been written by a top writer. In most cases, the inevitable end is as bad as in a movie. 

Life has different layers or dimensions. We live in one and animals live in another. This has to be remembered. At times, when the animal says ok, boundaries can be crossed. Many don't seem to realize you can't just leave when you get in. When it's turned round and humans cross unseen boundaries, the consequences often are way more serious. Our planet has different life forms. It's our task to protect places we don't know. In the last century, humans started dominating all other creatures. This means we now are responsible. Animals need our protection. Just like the old, the sick, the feeble, the weird and those in need. The moment we say no is the moment we let go of everything we cherish. Once done, there's no turning back. It is important to know what you are really doing, but it isn't easy. This is especially true for pro's in collecting coins who still lack a nice Amur tiger in their trophy room.
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RE: John Varty & Tiger Canyon - Sanju - 12-11-2018, 03:54 PM
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RE: John Varty & Tiger Canyon - Rage2277 - 12-12-2018, 11:38 PM
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