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Intelligence of the big cats...

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( This post was last modified: 01-01-2019, 04:17 AM by paul cooper )

Very weak science. Tigers not giving a shit about opening the box means they lost the trial. Not sure why she said only one tiger opened the box, this is another tiger opening the box from her experiment, and it was his first try. Two tigers opened the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd1jyaymOhg

Oh, maybe she didnt count it because the tiger didnt pull on the role but instead open the latch a different way?

Not opening the box isnt what matters. What matters is if the animal opens the box, and remembers opens it up repeatedly trials after meaning the animal understands the situation. Right? At least most of the cognition is dependent on this. 

It would be nice to have a paper like this recording all the trials. Because here you can see some of the trials lost from the tiger, its clearly coincidental.
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/suppl/....sd01.xlsx

This is from a different study:

Kisi the female amur tiger. She went to the box on the first trial, her dexerity is low, she spends barely a minute and a half and leaves. Is this a measure of intelligence? No.
Kisi had another trial to open the box. She got to the box in one second. She stayed at the box for 24 seconds. And she left. Her dexterity wasnt recorded. Is this a measure of intelligence? No.
Kisi had another trial to open the box. She got to the box in 5 seconds. She attempted to open the box for 2 seconds. The trial is then over. How can this possibly measure intelligence?

Telawley the female amur tiger. On her first trial she opened the box in almost 5 minutes. Her dexterity score was very high.
On her second attempt she did not open the box. She couldnt figure it out again. Third attempt she opened it. Fourth trial she did not open the box but she was only there for a minute. Maybe she didnt care.
Fifth to tenth attempts she opened the box. In less than two minutes. Her fifth attempt she didnt open the box. Her tenth attempt took a while. Did she understand the puzzle box?

Sevaki the male amur tiger. First trial he opened the box in a few minutes. But didnt eat the food. Second trial he opened the box. But didnt eat the food.
Third trial he didnt open the box. 1 minute in a half.
Fourth and fifth trials he didnt open the box. He was only there for 24 seconds. I have a big doubt that this has to do with intelligence.

Zeya the female amur tiger. Her first trial, she didnt open the box. Her dexterity was high. Second trial she didnt open it. Both trials took 250 seconds. On her third trial she was only there for 30 seconds.

Foli the male amur tiger, which i know in real life. First trial he didnt open it. 4 minutes and a half.
Second and third trial are only 40 and 70 seconds.

I will bet 1000 dollars her tigers did the same. The puzzle box thing is hardly a test of intelligence.
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Intelligence of the big cats... - Spalea - 12-28-2018, 11:52 AM
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