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Freak Felids - A Discussion of History's Largest Felines

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(04-27-2019, 03:17 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(04-27-2019, 03:09 PM)Arctotherium Wrote:
(04-27-2019, 02:42 PM)Shadow Wrote:
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(04-27-2019, 12:19 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(04-27-2019, 11:56 AM)Arctotherium Wrote:
(04-22-2019, 12:06 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(04-22-2019, 11:23 AM)Arctotherium Wrote:
(04-21-2019, 05:14 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 02:25 PM)Arctotherium Wrote: Sorry.
https://www.nakanune.ru/news/2017/08/29/22480970/
Cave Lions can grow 600 kg.

Please, be aware of the forum rules, and refrain to turn it into another lion vs tiger flamebait.

BTW, the inconsistency of the body mass calculation has been discussed over years, but we take the largest documented fossil records.

The largest Cave lion fossil record should reach the magnitude of 500 kg, and so far it is pretty clear that no American lion fossil or other later Cave lion fossil being larger than this.



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https://www.nakanune.ru/news/2017/08/29/22480970/




http://www.nat-geo.ru/science/694561-kladbishche-gigantskikh-peshchernykh-lvov-naydeno-v-bashkirii/
Cave Lions can up to 600 kg.

This is about that same issue in english:

http://russia-ic.com/education_science/science_overview/4453/#.XL1ktOgzZPY

I have to say, that when I look at big Kodiak bear weighing around 600 kg and knowing, that it is over 3 meters tall while standing on hind legs and when walking normally, shoulder height still 1,5 meters or even more.

Then I try to figure out an animal with shoulder height 1 meter said to be able to have same weight. And when looking at some ligers weighing 400 kg. I can´t help to get an image in my mind, where is 600 kg cave lion so fat, that it can roll sideways so, that legs not touching ground... :) I am really curious to see when official studies are published and what other scientists say. Now it looks like to be, that this 600 kg is only from Kosintsev. 

I am really curious to see more about this and see if I personally can fit it in common sense some way :)
https://hyperleap.com/topic/American_lion
https://markozen.com/2018/04/11/the-north-american-cave-lion/
https://sites.google.com/site/paleofilescom/prehistoric-world-records-cont-d
http://www.ligerworld.com/liger-vs-great-american-lion.html
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalsversesanimals/panthera-leo-atrox-versus-panthera-tigris-soloensi-t2863.html
https://roaring.earth/amazing-big-cats/2/
American Lion is the largest cat.
I don´t even open some tapatalk or other forums, where fanboys of lions and tigers are having their "wars". If you have some good scientific source or article, just put direct link.

But does this mean, that you don´t believe to information you shared earlier about findings in Russia and that those are as big as claimed to be? Those articles about possibly biggest ever cave lions. I mean didn´t they have bigger bones, than American lion fossils?
https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-largest-cat-that-existed-in-the-Pleistocene
https://thereaderwiki.com/en/American_lion
A cat with 500mm+(50 cm+)skull.And I am trying to say''Some cats can up to 600 kg (Or 600kg+)''

Well, luckily we have hear some people, like tigerluver, guategojira, grizzlyclaws and some others who are quite familiar with the subject, I find it interesting to see what they might have to say about this. I have noticed, that they have used quite a lot of time to study prehistoric animals.
And I say something.Any cat can kill Equus Giganteus?Maybe American Lion(Power and size)
And American Lion's size is like a bullshit.
470 kg average=680 kg maximum
556 kg average=769 kg maximum

Well, your opinion is clear. I am sorry, but I can´t take what you say too seriously. I haven´t seen lately any studies backing up what you say. But I wait with interest, what people here who have more knowledge about this subject have to say about things you claim :)
American Lion is not 556 kg.Newest estimate of American Lion=523 kg.
You think 2009's study was true.
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