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[Shardul]

(10-13-2016, 03:57 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(10-12-2016, 08:50 PM)Shardul Wrote: @Pckts 

I suggest you ignore these people. When the words of a scientist, who actually weighed the tigers in the jungle, and published the data in a scientific journal, holds no credibility in the eyes of these people, what difference are our opinions going to make? These people are prejudiced and deceitful, but try to put on a mask of neutrality and objectivity in order to further their agenda.

I know your feeling but one of my guilty pleasures still is debating, I do enjoy what comes from it. While most refuse to acknowledge if they are wrong it still forces us to take harder looks at things and I'll be the first to admit that it has forced me to look at theories I once had and rethink my conclusions... aka I was wrong and it helped me realize it..... But that is extremely rare

Most of these guys have been debating for years, we all know one another and I'd like to think that MOST of us have matured as well as gained much more knowledge and are able to debate in a educated and productive way.
You're one of my favorite people to read when debating, I really enjoy your "straight to the point" and "logical" style, your concise postings are enjoyable. I know between you and @Dr. Panthera I was opened up to a new world of understanding habitat and location when it came to the idea of avg. Prey size or availability. It obviously became much clearer once I finally went to africa and got to see how prey species travel and their preferences to certain habitat but you began that trek.

All I'm saying is that I think good can come from it as long as it's not done in a "trolling" sort of way.

Thanks for the appreciation, and I agree with everything you say. However, exchange of ideas can only happen with a person who has an open mind. You, me, Peter, Guate, Sanjay, tigerluver, we all love tigers, but we do not spend every living moment of our lives discrediting or disparaging lions. I have no problem in believing the 272 kg lion. Why can't a lion be that big? If tomorrow some scientists decide to weigh 50 adult tigers from different parts of India & Nepal, and 50 adult lions from different parts of africa, using the same methodology and equipment, and were to conclude that both cats average the same size, I would be very happy to believe them.

People like waverider or boldchamp have devoted their lives to discrediting a single animal, which reveals a deep malaise. They are not willing to believe any data that doesn't conform to their preexisting notions. You cannot learn anything from a debate with these people. Reply