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Felids Interactions - Intraspecific Conflicts

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( This post was last modified: 12-10-2018, 07:56 PM by Rishi )

There is this and one other video of them interacting together that I have seen.
Im sure they used to encounter eachother much more often until we started hunting both.
Arizona just recently saw its first jaguar in forever, Im sure they used to be teaming with both at one point.
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( This post was last modified: 12-27-2014, 07:31 AM by Pantherinae )

one very rare occasion a male lion kills another male lion in a one on one fight! As I have started looking into Selinda And Linyanti Lions I found this storry from a Male lion I know quite well Romeo from Kings pool camp, when he killed another male in a fight. Very cool stuff 

The Kings Pool resident male lion, Romeo, has become famous and well-loved for his vain tendencies – he patrols his territory and devotes time and energy to preserving his perfect, unscarred appearance and wooing the females of the area. Guests adore his majestic looks and his fondness for the camera, and he is forgiven for his somewhat cowardly habits of running in the opposite direction when the Selinda Boys venture over into his domain.
It came as a huge surprise, then, when one morning recently the radio lit up with reports of a bleeding and badly injured Romeo, and furthermore, another male lion – dead.
After months of teasing Romeo for his vanity, it seemed that he had proven us all wrong. In what appeared to be a landslide victory, Romeo had killed one of the Selinda Boys in the night. The dead male lion lay on his side, and it was only the damage to his face that revealed Romeo’s method of attack- he had suffered a swift blow to the head and had most likely been suffocated by the so-called ‘docile’ resident male.
The victor was not unscarred, however, and lay nearby looking very sorry for himself and licking his paw, which appeared to have suffered a severe puncture wound. Over the next few days, Romeo did not stray far from the remains of his adversary, and the vultures began to close in on the dead lion.
OD, one of the Kings Pool guides, witnessed some fascinating behaviour when two lionesses caught the scent of the dead lion whilst walking near the river. They cautiously approached, with an adolescent male following behind, and appeared to be ‘stalking’ the carcass. Suddenly, they stopped, and seemed very frightened as they identified the scent as belonging to one of the Selinda males; not realising that he was dead, they turned abruptly and ran in the opposite direction. Romeo tried to follow, moaning after them with pitiful contact calls, but they did not even glance back, too terrified to risk an encounter with a male who may well have been responsible for the deaths of their two young cubs.
All in all, the event made for some very interesting interaction amongst the lions. We are pleased to report that Romeo is on the mend and back to his usual, self-indulgent patrols around the concession.
A final note: The other member of the Selinda Boys is still missing and has not been seen for some time – perhaps he has also fallen to the Kings Pool King?
http://www.wilderness-safaris.com/blog/p...kings-pool

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India sanjay Online
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WOW... this is brutal
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It seems that lions do kill with a grip in the neck. Mane was no protection, after all.
 
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I would argue the mane does offer SOME protection, just not enough in this particular case.
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Plus since a lot of the damage looks to be to the face, the mane may not have mattered either way.  The dead lion appears to have been killed with an attack similar to this.

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( This post was last modified: 12-25-2014, 03:12 AM by Pantherinae )

The mane has never been said to be 100% protection, but some protection it certanly gives, I've seen Lions struggle to Get a grip on males with big manes. This selinda male Looks a little young and does not have a big mane, The bigger The mane the more protection! There's also a picture of a male lion killing another male with a skull bite, and why do You think male Lions Often attack The hindquaters, instead of the frontal attacks as every other cat. And a big maned male lion like kincky tail took alot of time for four male Lions to kill no neck or throat bites, while kincky tail and mr. T kills a younger male with little mane The same day with a solid neck grip, same goes for mr.T large male against four males no neck or throat bite! I know this can be a serrious discussion topic.. So I'm just giving my opinion and my view of The topic.. But I'm 100% sure the mane gives the neck and throat some protection..

I know this mane thing is a lion vs tiger topic, and I have never really been interested in who's The ultimate cat. so this is Nothing lion fan stuff just sayin before it triggers anyone. These cat's will never meet in The wild so it's a silly subject IMO. I think both could kill one another and that's all I wanna say about this
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Absolutely. This topic has been discussed on all big cat forums. It offers more protection through disguise
of the neck joint than anything else.  
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( This post was last modified: 12-25-2014, 10:36 AM by GuateGojira )

But still, in this particular case, this maned lion was killed by a bite in the "neck", despite its mane. So, mane seems to offer only secondary protection, in the best case.

But, just saying, don't get angry. [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
 
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( This post was last modified: 12-25-2014, 05:55 PM by Pantherinae )

Not angry at all guate[img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]. This male has a smaller mane, and like young males with a small mane he also get's killed with neck/throat bite. 
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This is absolutely stunning and new video in which 2 male tiger from Kanha National Park India fight for territory, I guess this video is taken after 1-Jan-2015, So it is recent and @Rage2277 posted some fine image of this incident in his last post in B2 and other tiger pic thread.




All credit to "Call of the Wild" [ http://www.callofthewild.in ]
 
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renoka shows younger male who's boss! xaxanaka, moremi, okavango delta in botswana! 



 
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Majingianlae male lion kills young male lion 



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(12-25-2014, 02:47 AM)'chaos' Wrote: Absolutely. This topic has been discussed on all big cat forums. It offers more protection through disguise
of the neck joint than anything else.  

 

I agree it offers a good visual distraction to the opponent, and often can deflect and opponents bite attempts.   While the mane won't always protect a lion in a fight, it's better than no protection.

 
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(12-24-2014, 09:12 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: It seems that lions do kill with a grip in the neck. Mane was no protection, after all.
 

 


Most likely. The area of the mane on the lion which looks caved in (see image) indicates that it was bitten. I also would have to say that the size of the lions mane is quite average, so it wasn't a small maned lion either.


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