Comparing Cats: A Discussion of Similarities & Differences

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(10-14-2020, 04:04 PM)Balam Wrote:

(10-14-2020, 03:51 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(10-14-2020, 03:31 PM)Balam Wrote: @Shadow what Dark Jaguar and I posted was backed up by studies as well, nothing was merely based on "personal speculation" and not once did we make a personal attack on anyone to warrant the "respect other opinions" claim. If you're in a debate forum you should expect others to debate or disagree with what you said, so I'm not retracting anything. In fact the only one that went on to make accusations about the reasoning of our opinions was you.

The study you posted showed that when the two species overlap in size there is no clear dominance of one over the other, this dissipates when the jaguar is the larger animal. Furthermore, the cougars of Central America have never been registered badly injuring or killing a jaguar, while the opposite has been recorded as mentioned before, hence why there is reason to suggest that the jaguar will come out as victorious in a fight more oftem than not thanks to its more robust build which translates to more body strength.

One addition. Before you try to lecture about respect and other things, remember this what you wrote quite a little time ago: "And there are people who unironically believe a leopard can put up a fight against a lioness or a much larger jaguar."

And that sentence was related to quite poor example to what comes to this kind of issue overall. It´s ok to have opinions, but when talking about respect, it´s good to think twice before writing things. You didn´t show much respect there to people who disagree you if asked from me. So I hope that after this you also remember, that disagreeing is ok, but what comes to disrespecting it´s another thing.

I'm not going to go in circles about this, my initial claimed was that a smaller animal is not going to put up a fight against a larger one and come out victorious, and I stand by that. The statement was made in a general sense and not targetting anybody specifically as it reflects things I have seen posted on other places. The same way that people here make statements regarding claims they deem as unfounded by others without getting lectured for it, because it's a subjective opinion.

You have a right to disagree and that is your prerogative, on my side I'm not changing anything.

That statement and opinion is ok to say. Reasoning and opinions are never problem here as long as keeping things in reasonable level. Jaguars, pumas and leopards have all people liking them and for some reason some minor issues seem to cause often a lot of tension.

Disagreeing isn´t prerogative for anyone here, it´s what everyone are entitled in wildfact, when able to give good reasoning. Moderators intervene only when reasoning has no sense whatsoever or people forget manners too much. As could be seen here, no problem to speak out. What comes to my thoughts concerning jaguars, pumas and leopards, postings #277 and #279 open up my thoughts if someone see this and is interested. Reply