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(12-31-2023, 03:26 PM)Hello Wrote: Of course jaguars have thick neck, but for their huge bodies and head, it isn't impressive and doesn't appear that thick to me. Their dorsal part isn't that thick and relatively less thick. Do jaguars have thin necks? I think I shouldn't have said thin but should've said less thick relatively.
So their dorsal view is “relatively less thick?”
Based off what?
Because these would certainly disagree with that assessment
I don't know how to explain. It appears only to me that they aren't impressive. To me all jaguars are the same with limited variation. Even this less bulky leopard with much less dewlap have muscular necks if you look from the rear in relation to their less bulky bodies which in my opinion is impressive than the jaguars above. Another thing is that I noticed that leopards have shorter distance between the shoulder and back of the head which creates an appearance of a powerful neck.
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(12-31-2023, 07:22 PM)Hello Wrote: I don't know how to explain. It appears only to me that they aren't impressive. To me all jaguars are the same with limited variation. Even this less bulky leopard with much less dewlap have muscular necks if you look from the rear in relation to their less bulky bodies which in my opinion is impressive than the jaguars above. Another thing is that I noticed that leopards have shorter distance between the shoulder and back of the head which creates an appearance of a powerful neck.
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Again these aren’t based on fact, just an interpretation from cherry picked images. Anything you can post I can post images that counterpoint it.
But let’s look at it from a common sense perspective…
When a head is larger the muscles attached need to be larger. There is no reason a Leopard would be outsized in every other muscular category then for some reason have a larger neck, it makes no morphological sense.
This is also represented by Jaguars having a larger neck measurement and weight while having similar body dimensions. They are the more powerfully built cat.
01-01-2024, 03:05 AM( This post was last modified: 02-03-2024, 02:48 PM by ganidat )
The bulkiest / pound for pound strongest cats based on my observation:
1. Siberian tiger and leopard
2. Bengal tiger of Panna National Park
3. Jaguar
4. Leopards inside the jungle
5. Sumatran tigers
6. Bengal tigers in general
7. Other tiger subspecies
8. Leopards in the open plains
9. Cougars
9. Lions
10. Cheetahs
The Siberian tiger and leopard evolved in the most challenging environment, the Siberian Winter. It needs more muscles to keep it warm. Cats are not bears, ie. they don't get fatter in the cold. They get bulkier to keep warm. Even bears only get fat because they hibernate not because it's cold. Siberian tigers also have to navigate through deep snow in the winter, which once again is a more physically challenging task. Just imagine walking through snow, which is hard enough, but now you also have to chase prey through snow? That's a tough life.
Lions and cheetahs are built for high speed running in the open plains. And they are both gang animals, which do not require 1-on-1 fighting skills or prowess. Hence, they don't need to be strong. They need to be fast. Which is in perfect congruence with the fact that they are both rigid, long, and skinny.
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