Coalitions of Kruger National Park

[Brahim]

South Shishangeni.
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(02-11-2022, 10:42 PM)Mdz123 Wrote:

(02-11-2022, 09:19 AM)Brahimlegend Wrote: 5 Young males seen on H5 couple days ago. The same 5 seen last year on s130 by Kruger PRIDE Safaris. The biggest two boys are the ones seen recently with Old Lubyelubye. Included pic of the 5 males last year by kruger pride Safaris.
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So basically the two older ones are known young Hippo Pools males. But you said that they come from Gomondwane and not Hippo Pools pride, im slightly confused, are the oldes 2 unrelated with other 3? 

If old LhbyeLubye somehow forms a coalition with all 5, which seems likely since he was seen with the 2, this will become a force to be reckoned with in the area

I have tried to understand about male hippo pool lions and male lubeylubey lions from page 426-27 of this thread. There is ample amount of information but i am not able to connect the dots. 
The only things I understand is 2 of the hippo pool males were sired by shishangeni in around 2016.
And there is one father lubeylubey and 3 young lubeylubey brothers ( who are not the sons of father lubeylubey). 
It would really be helpful if the group members explain me in brief about total how many hippo pool males r there, sired by whom, which pride they control. 
And who sired father lubeylubey, young lubeylubey, which prides they control and of lubeylubey and hippo pools are related in someway or another??? Reply

[Brahim]

OK so let's start with Hippo pools males. 

There are 3 older males that were originally 4, only 3 seen now and are split up, one is with the two older s28 males and the other called smudge nose is with his brother in mjejane. So these are the 3 oldest.

There is another nomadic two hippo pools males not far from pride but nomadic.

Then there are 3 Hippo pools males still with pride currently. 

So that is 8 Hippo pools males all fathered by Shishangeni.

There are also another set of 3 males near s27 Close by to hippo pools territory but not sure who fathered them yet, possibly also by Shishangeni but they were close to pride but not seen with with yet so not sure on them yet. 

Lubyelubye father used to rule Lower sabie area with brothers but now he is the last and moved south with his two sons. One died and one became dominant with him until the son vanished last year leaving old lubyelubye alone. 

Lubyelubye Brothers are 2 males sons of the 5 Old Jock males. They come from Lubyelubye pride which used to be run by Old Lubyelubye before the 5 Jocks expelled him. Reply

[Brahim]

The oldest 3 Hippo Pools males.
The one standing is the one with the two S28 males.
Sitting one is smudge nose hippo pools Reply

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These are the 2 nomadic young hippo Pool males Reply

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3 Hippo pools males with pride still. Reply

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The 3 on S27 nearby who haven't been seen with pride or males. Reply

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4 of the 7 Satara's 
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[DARK MANE]

(02-20-2022, 03:34 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: OK so let's start with Hippo pools males. 

There are two older males that were originally 4, only 2 remain and are split up, one is with the two older s28 males and the other called smudge nose is with a new male near biyamiti. So these are the 2 oldest.

There is another nomadic two hippo pools males not far from pride but nomadic.

Then there are 3 Hippo pools males still with pride currently. 

So that is 7 Hippo pools males all fathered by Shishangeni.

There are also another set of 3 males near s27 Close by to hippo pools territory but not sure who fathered them yet, possibly also by Shishangeni but they were close to pride but not seen with with yet so not sure on them yet. 

Lubyelubye father used to rule Lower sabie area with brothers but now he is the last and moved south with his two sons. One died and one became dominant with him until the son vanished last year leaving old lubyelubye alone. 

Lubyelubye Brothers are 2 males sons of the 5 Old Jock males. They come from Lubyelubye pride which used to be run by Old Lubyelubye before the 5 Jocks expelled him.

 
Thanks for insightful information. 
Thats so nice of u. Reply

[Mdz123]

Impressive Mjejane male, he is probably one of the most photographed lions in all Kruger
Credits: Diresh Parbhoo

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Rockfig male
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[Brahim]

Looks like senior mbiri not rockfig Reply

[DARK MANE]

(02-20-2022, 07:04 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: Impressive Mjejane male, he is probably one of the most photographed lions in all Kruger
Credits: Diresh Parbhoo

Yeah, along with CASPER. 
I still wonder why these 3 male still don't get their individual names. These brothers are magnificent, robust and furious. They have many fights with vurhami, eastern bank males, mpondos and S28 coalitions in past and have won every single time. Reply

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(02-20-2022, 10:31 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Yeah, along with CASPER. 
I still wonder why these 3 male still don't get their individual names. These brothers are magnificent, robust and furious. They have many fights with vurhami, eastern bank males, mpondos and S28 coalitions in past and have won every single time.

They have names: T, Toya and Pretty Boy.

No evidence of them fight any coalition you said except young Vurhamis, and prob some Eastern Bank Males (althrough also only speculation).

They did defeat 2 Croc Bridge males in 2018 when they become territorial at Mjejane. Reply

[DARK MANE]

(02-20-2022, 10:36 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(02-20-2022, 10:31 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Yeah, along with CASPER. 
I still wonder why these 3 male still don't get their individual names. These brothers are magnificent, robust and furious. They have many fights with vurhami, eastern bank males, mpondos and S28 coalitions in past and have won every single time.

They have names: T, Toya and Pretty Boy.

No evidence of them fight any coalition you said except young Vurhamis, and prob some Eastern Bank Males (althrough also only speculation).

They did defeat 2 Croc Bridge males in 2018 when they become territorial at Mjejane.

Yeah..... 
Actually I have read about it in Facebook page of 5 th mpondo male. Yeah, I misplaced S26 coalition with S28. You see I am not very good in remembering numbers. I am sharing the link about . The page is lion the living legends. 
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...9467168929

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