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Can a Lone Male Lion have a successful predation on a Adult Bull Buffalo?
Can a Lone Male Lion have a successful predation on a Adult Bull Buffalo?
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Can a Lone Male Lion have a successful predation on a Adult Bull Buffalo?
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 (01-22-2015, 07:44 AM)'TheLioness' Wrote: 2 very shy adult male lions were found, and seen from a distance before they ran off, another male lion was seen pulling down a buffalo bull one morning, while an adult male lion and lioness pair were seen mating. Nice find, can you get any info on the kill? If it was successfully, etc. Recommend that page to anybody, its an interesting read from 2006. Is there any others from more recent years? Is this written as a forum of visitors sightings? Its a cool page and Idea, if the account of the lion is a lone individual and he was successful in the kill I will gladly admit that Lone male lions have killed adult Bull buffalo before. Either way, nice find. 
Survival of the fittest, a injured animal has little to no shot lasting in the wild.
I feel bad for the calf though, I wonder how the cow got that limp as well. But that is a great video to use when comparing to the Raja hunt. If you want to compare them, Ill let you go first. If not, we will keep it on the lion hunt topic. TFS 
We've read the accounts of long drawn out battles of single lions taking down buffalo. Obviously, there's a technique to doing this
successfully. Some lions kill their victims in a quick and efficient manner, while others struggle for a prolonged time. Its all about tecqnique. (01-23-2015, 02:17 AM)'chaos' Wrote: We've read the accounts of long drawn out battles of single lions taking down buffalo. Obviously, there's a technique to doing thisTechnique is one factor, strength, speed, stamina etc. All play roles as well. I will not start the debate here, but I do notice a difference between the two kills, I'll leave it at that unless pantherinae wants to discuss further.
For a lion killing large buffalo, its proper tech. more than anything. Effectively administering the throat bite with as little effort and struggle as
possible is the method. Some have mastered it, others need to learn it, and some have died trying. (01-23-2015, 02:43 AM)'chaos' Wrote: For a lion killing large buffalo, its proper tech. more than anything. Effectively administering the throat bite with as little effort and struggle asBoth lion and tiger need to accomplish the same, attach to the throat. Whether a large buffalo or Gaur. I am more so looking at what happens after the throat bite is attached.
If the bite placement is ideal, the victim suffocates, and is then eaten. In that order. Thats what happens
Bite force is increased or decreased by strength of the planted predator that is applying it. If a predator is being dragged while the prey struggles than the force decreases, if the predator is stead fast while the prey struggles that only increases the force. Physics plays a huge factor, there are many times where a animal can have a throat lock and not finish the kill or vice versa.
I do not wanna compare this hunt with raja's. it's not nescesary both cat's did an easy job on two not very impressive animals of their spicies. a limping buffalo cow and a gaur cow (who looks sick at least skinny and not very big) who stod no chance at all.
I'll leave it with that. both lions and tigers are capable of taking more impressive induviduvals than that, that's for sure. (01-23-2015, 03:08 AM)'chaos' Wrote: Wow. I think you're reading a bit too much into this. Personally I could give two hoots about the dynamics involved.I was only responding to your assessment of the necessities needed to make a kill. @Pantherinae I'll will agree that both are impressive and leave it at that. Did you ever hear back from that guy in regards to the Bull Buffalo question? I sent him a friend request as well.  (01-23-2015, 05:26 AM)'Siegfried' Wrote: @Pckts, why would you doubt a lion's ability to take down a bull buffalo? Why is it that you find it so far fetched? A big cat clearly can kill animals quite a bit larger than themselves. Because the Lion is so well viewed, photographed and videoed and yet there was never a account of it occurring. Even to this day, after all the research we have done, we still have one account of it occurring. So its obvious that it is extremely rare either way. I have seen attempts so I know they attack them and they wouldn't do that unless they thought they had a shot at making a kill. So I think it probably has happened but I am more of a evidence first before I believe, sort of guy. @Panterinae Thanks for looking into it some more. Let us know when you hear back. |
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