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(10-27-2020, 11:59 PM)Gijima Wrote:
(10-27-2020, 11:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Malamala said that Torchwood male is 4
yrs and 7 months old:


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That would mean that he is born in early 2016,and not in late 2016 as we speculated, and by that he is the oldest Bboys son.

Makes sense. The Bboys spent most of their time from late 2015-early 2016 in the east mating with Torchwoods. Lots of sightings of all of them by the Nkorho dam during early 2016.

You're also wrong here @Gijima The Birminghams only mated with the Nkuhuma and Styx females from September 2015. The first sighting of the Birmingham and Torchwood was in July 2016. This is the sighting of Nhenha with the pride. The reserve was even confused as to who the females were and thought it was the Talamati.

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(10-28-2020, 01:55 AM)Slayerd Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 12:44 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-27-2020, 11:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Malamala said that Torchwood male is 4
yrs and 7 months old:


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That would mean that he is born in early 2016,and not in late 2016 as we speculated, and by that he is the oldest Bboys son.

This really explains very well why the Torchwood young male has been looking much bigger in size and with a very better mane than their half-brothers (Styx and Nkuhuma young males.)
No guys, you're wrong. Don't forget the picture I sent of him in late 2017 where you guys said he was 1. If Mala Mala was correct, he'd be looking like the Nkuhuma cubs do now. On previous Mala Mala reports, they stated his age as unknown. This is merely an estimation based off of the way he looks. Don't forget the Othawa Male, Styx Males and Charlestons who were also fast developing lions. There is a video as well of Nhenha and the Torchwood pride is September 2017 and none of the cubs looked the age you're describing. This is also not the first time we have seen Mala Mala wrong. Mala Mala also believes Nhenha is 8 and Tinyo is 9. To go even further, last year they said there was two 7 years olds and one 8 year old. After Nsuku passed away, it became one 7 year old and one 8 year old. When we all know Nsuku was the oldest and Nhenha was slightly older than Tinyo. Mala Mala is wrong here. The Torchwood Young Male is either 3 or just turned 4. The Nkuhuma Young Male is also an example as he looks younger than the Styx Young Male when we all know he is older but because he is underdeveloped due to stress, he looks younger.

Ah,OK.  then MM rangers have made a mistake with the age of the young Torchwood male?. 
Then,If they really were wrong saying that the Young Torchwood male is almost around 5 years old (4.7 yrs old at the moment) Anyway,MM not can be doomed for this mistake. Perhaps they just got it the date birth of the TYM wrong
Once again: Thanks  for the helpful information
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(10-28-2020, 02:16 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 01:55 AM)Slayerd Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 12:44 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-27-2020, 11:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Malamala said that Torchwood male is 4
yrs and 7 months old:


*This image is copyright of its original author

That would mean that he is born in early 2016,and not in late 2016 as we speculated, and by that he is the oldest Bboys son.

This really explains very well why the Torchwood young male has been looking much bigger in size and with a very better mane than their half-brothers (Styx and Nkuhuma young males.)
No guys, you're wrong. Don't forget the picture I sent of him in late 2017 where you guys said he was 1. If Mala Mala was correct, he'd be looking like the Nkuhuma cubs do now. On previous Mala Mala reports, they stated his age as unknown. This is merely an estimation based off of the way he looks. Don't forget the Othawa Male, Styx Males and Charlestons who were also fast developing lions. There is a video as well of Nhenha and the Torchwood pride is September 2017 and none of the cubs looked the age you're describing. This is also not the first time we have seen Mala Mala wrong. Mala Mala also believes Nhenha is 8 and Tinyo is 9. To go even further, last year they said there was two 7 years olds and one 8 year old. After Nsuku passed away, it became one 7 year old and one 8 year old. When we all know Nsuku was the oldest and Nhenha was slightly older than Tinyo. Mala Mala is wrong here. The Torchwood Young Male is either 3 or just turned 4. The Nkuhuma Young Male is also an example as he looks younger than the Styx Young Male when we all know he is older but because he is underdeveloped due to stress, he looks younger.

Ah,OK.  then MM rangers have made a mistake with the age of the young Torchwood male?. 
Then,If they really were wrong saying that the Young Torchwood male is almost around 5 years old (4.7 yrs old at the moment) Anyway,MM not can be doomed for this mistake. Perhaps they just got it the date birth of the TYM wrong
Once again: Thanks  for the helpful information

Off course. I think they made an estimation based off of the way he looks and it's understandable because he does look older than he should but facts say otherwise with his age. Guides will not always be right with these types of things but when it comes to dynamics and sizes, we can most likely rely one them as they are seeing those things with their own eyes.
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(10-28-2020, 03:08 AM)Slayerd Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 02:16 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 01:55 AM)Slayerd Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 12:44 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-27-2020, 11:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Malamala said that Torchwood male is 4
yrs and 7 months old:


*This image is copyright of its original author

That would mean that he is born in early 2016,and not in late 2016 as we speculated, and by that he is the oldest Bboys son.

This really explains very well why the Torchwood young male has been looking much bigger in size and with a very better mane than their half-brothers (Styx and Nkuhuma young males.)
No guys, you're wrong. Don't forget the picture I sent of him in late 2017 where you guys said he was 1. If Mala Mala was correct, he'd be looking like the Nkuhuma cubs do now. On previous Mala Mala reports, they stated his age as unknown. This is merely an estimation based off of the way he looks. Don't forget the Othawa Male, Styx Males and Charlestons who were also fast developing lions. There is a video as well of Nhenha and the Torchwood pride is September 2017 and none of the cubs looked the age you're describing. This is also not the first time we have seen Mala Mala wrong. Mala Mala also believes Nhenha is 8 and Tinyo is 9. To go even further, last year they said there was two 7 years olds and one 8 year old. After Nsuku passed away, it became one 7 year old and one 8 year old. When we all know Nsuku was the oldest and Nhenha was slightly older than Tinyo. Mala Mala is wrong here. The Torchwood Young Male is either 3 or just turned 4. The Nkuhuma Young Male is also an example as he looks younger than the Styx Young Male when we all know he is older but because he is underdeveloped due to stress, he looks younger.

Ah,OK.  then MM rangers have made a mistake with the age of the young Torchwood male?. 
Then,If they really were wrong saying that the Young Torchwood male is almost around 5 years old (4.7 yrs old at the moment) Anyway,MM not can be doomed for this mistake. Perhaps they just got it the date birth of the TYM wrong
Once again: Thanks  for the helpful information

Off course. I think they made an estimation based off of the way he looks and it's understandable because he does look older than he should but facts say otherwise with his age. Guides will not always be right with these types of things but when it comes to dynamics and sizes, we can most likely rely one them as they are seeing those things with their own eyes.
Could be.
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(10-28-2020, 01:55 AM)Slayerd Wrote:
(10-28-2020, 12:44 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-27-2020, 11:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Malamala said that Torchwood male is 4
yrs and 7 months old:


*This image is copyright of its original author

That would mean that he is born in early 2016,and not in late 2016 as we speculated, and by that he is the oldest Bboys son.

This really explains very well why the Torchwood young male has been looking much bigger in size and with a very better mane than their half-brothers (Styx and Nkuhuma young males.)
No guys, you're wrong. Don't forget the picture I sent of him in late 2017 where you guys said he was 1. If Mala Mala was correct, he'd be looking like the Nkuhuma cubs do now. On previous Mala Mala reports, they stated his age as unknown. This is merely an estimation based off of the way he looks. Don't forget the Othawa Male, Styx Males and Charlestons who were also fast developing lions. There is a video as well of Nhenha and the Torchwood pride is September 2017 and none of the cubs looked the age you're describing. This is also not the first time we have seen Mala Mala wrong. Mala Mala also believes Nhenha is 8 and Tinyo is 9. To go even further, last year they said there was two 7 years olds and one 8 year old. After Nsuku passed away, it became one 7 year old and one 8 year old. When we all know Nsuku was the oldest and Nhenha was slightly older than Tinyo. Mala Mala is wrong here. The Torchwood Young Male is either 3 or just turned 4. The Nkuhuma Young Male is also an example as he looks younger than the Styx Young Male when we all know he is older but because he is underdeveloped due to stress, he looks younger.

Yeah, those are only Mala Mala's estimations. By the time Torchwood male was born, Torchwood pride was not resident in Mala Mala yet.
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Torchwood young male
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TBT - The handsome Torchwood male sits atop a termite mound keeping an eye on prey in the area...
During the recent sightings that we have seen over the past months and weeks. Everybody can seen clearly how much his mane has grown and their size too. He's going to be a true beast of male lion. I hope he will left offspring in somewhere of Sabi Sands or KNP
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Ntsevu/Kambula Young male. These guys are getting big and growing out their manes very fast. They might have as big manes as Junior. 

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(10-30-2020, 06:24 PM)Slayerd Wrote: Ntsevu/Kambula Young male. These guys are getting big and growing out their manes very fast. They might have as big manes as Junior. 

Credit: Londolozi Blog weekly pictures

The Ntsevu / Kambula young males are promising boys to contribute through the bloodline of the many prides in Sabi Sands...
Let's see what will happens. Perhaps we can witness a powerful coalition soon.
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Another 1 of the Kambula/Ntsevu Young Males. 

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The young Styx male at Londolozi Game Reserve,Sabi Sands
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(11-02-2020, 01:27 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: The young Styx male at Londolozi Game Reserve,Sabi Sands
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Wow, he changed drastically over the past few months.... glad these two are still around and doing well.
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(11-02-2020, 02:03 AM)Gijima Wrote:
(11-02-2020, 01:27 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: The young Styx male at Londolozi Game Reserve,Sabi Sands
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Wow, he changed drastically over the past few months.... glad these two are still around and doing well.

The Styx young male now look like much beautiful than never. Seems that him and the Nkuhuma male now should be nomadic males around central Sabi Sands. I wonder what will happens if they are seen by the Gowrie males. Them could be on double trouble.
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The Ntsevu/Kambula sub-adults on the Londolozi airstrip -  Image by Pete Thorpe

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The young Torchwood male
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