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06-02-2016, 03:19 AM( This post was last modified: 06-02-2016, 03:25 AM by Pckts )
(06-02-2016, 02:42 AM)Polar Wrote:
(06-02-2016, 12:54 AM)Pckts Wrote: Agreed Polar, and if we are talking about a one ton animal being vertically dragged up a mountain side, that isn't going to be some 85kg bear or big cat, that is going to be a large animals, 185kg plus animal, and of course lb for lb a big cat or bear is stronger than a human so to accomplish such a feat you would probably need a man upwards of 600-700lbs and is as strong as an ox.
But if a man can pull 188tons of plane, he can at least budge the carcass, but we are talking about .001% of the entire human population compared to an averaged sized bear.
Yeah, budge the carcass half an inch, but not any more.
387-kg times 3 = 1161-kg or 2559 pounds, which is more than a US ton. A bear would still struggle with the carcass upwards, since the carcass is obviously not a barbell where all the weight is symmetrical; the head, neck, and behind portions of the carcass would droop lower than the abdomen (if the bear carried it there). Unequal weights are often harder to pull up.
So yes, an 85-kg brown bear can vertically-drag that carcass on a ledge, but with very extreme struggle.
I would seriously doubt an 85kg bear could drag 1161kg up hill, in fact, there is no land mammal in the bears terrain that even weighs that much.
In fact, I would have to see an account of bear dragging a smaller adult bull bison or moose before I would even think of agreeing to that. Not to mention the absolute rarity of predation on the species mentioned as well as the bears needed to accomplish such a feat.
Here is a Large Bear (much larger than 85kg) dragging a moose cow, a young one at that on flat surface with ice and yet it certainly doesn't look to be doing it easy, does it? Not to mention that he only drags it a few feet, could of dragged it further, sure but its no easy task for him.
Certainly not easy enough to drag something triple or quadruple its weight up a vertical hillside, could a larger bear accomplish this task, yes I think so but these animals have limits.