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Bear and grey wolf interractions in the wild

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(08-01-2019, 02:37 AM)Roberto Wrote:
(07-31-2019, 06:25 PM)Roberto Wrote: Bear kills wolf in grizzly attack


By Fred Langan in Toronto
12:01AM BST 28 May 2005

When a four-year old grizzly bear was put in the same five-acre enclosure as four grey wolves, each about the size of a large alsatian, at the Grouse Mountain Refuge for Endangered Wildlife in Vancouver, it was supposed to "provide wildlife with the most natural setting possible".
Rather too natural for the dozen or so tourists who watched in horror when the alpha-male wolf went nose-to-nose with the bear over a cow bone.
With a single swipe of its paw the 500lb bear took the wolf's head off.
In the wild the two species seldom meet. The three remaining wolves are now in a separate enclosure.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/1490932/Bear-kills-wolf-in-grizzly-attack.html

(07-31-2019, 10:50 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(07-31-2019, 06:25 PM)Roberto Wrote: Bear kills wolf in grizzly attack


By Fred Langan in Toronto
12:01AM BST 28 May 2005

When a four-year old grizzly bear was put in the same five-acre enclosure as four grey wolves, each about the size of a large alsatian, at the Grouse Mountain Refuge for Endangered Wildlife in Vancouver, it was supposed to "provide wildlife with the most natural setting possible".
Rather too natural for the dozen or so tourists who watched in horror when the alpha-male wolf went nose-to-nose with the bear over a cow bone.
With a single swipe of its paw the 500l
In the wild the two species seldom meet. The three remaining wolves are now in a separate enclosure.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/1490932/Bear-kills-wolf-in-grizzly-attack.html

That article is such, that looks like a case in which reporter has taken some... "artistic freedom". Bear can without a doubt kill a wolf with single swipe of paw when getting a good hit. But taking head off, there description changes to nonsense. Reminds me about stories, where is claimed that brown bears would decapitate moose with paw swipe, total nonsense.

But looks like, that one more unsuccessful try out to keep bears and wolves in same enclosure. If good luck, that can work out, but there is always a risk for conflict. Maybe animals born in captivity, when wolf goes so close to bear in the way as is written. In wild when there are 4 wolves, they tend to act together, not so stupidly as described in article. Sad and unnecessary cases and first thought in mind is incompetence of zoo-keepers.

Anyway that article isn´t credible what comes to description of that kill. Breaking neck isn´t same as decapitation :)

Some people wont believe it, some will. Maybe this case the bear threw a well placed paw swipe and decapitated that wolf. Brown bears have a huge shoulder hump, which is pure muscle, that powers the front limbs, the arms are just an extension of the shoulder. This makes brown bears have the strongest front limbs of any predator. Hence, not impossible.

There is a large gap between strong forelimbs and being able to decapitate with one swipe.
Even devices like the Guillotine which were designed for decapitation would fail from time to time. There has never been a real account of a Bear or Big Cat actually accomplishing this "paw swipe decapitation" in the wild nor are their limbs or claws designed for it. 
And just so you know, that account is false.

Here's the actual account
Grizzly kills wolf at Vancouver wildlife refuge
  • NORTH VANCOUVER, British Columbia — A captive grizzly bear killed a timber wolf in a struggle over a bone in front of about 25 spectators at the Grouse Mountain Refuge for Endangered Wildlife, the refuge director says.
The wolf, one of four captive-born grey wolves that were rejected for use in the movie industry, had found a bone in the five-acre enclosure they had shared for a week with two orphaned 4-year-old male grizzlies, said Ken Macquisten, managing director and veterinarian at the Grouse Mountain Refuge for Endangered Wildlife.
One of the grizzlies, 650-pound Grinder, tried to take the bone away, and when the wolf resisted, the bear struck him.
"The other wolves tried to chase Grinder off," Macquisten said, "but he bit the fallen wolf in the neck and killed him. The whole thing probably took about 15 seconds."
Macquisten had placed the wolves and bears in the same enclosure 10 days ago, hoping they would provide stimulation for each other. They previously occupied separate but adjacent enclosures.
"One of the biggest challenges of caring for captive bears and wolves is boredom," Macquisten said.
"In the woods, they need their wits to survive. So what provides interest is the presence of another species they can't quite figure out, but are constantly trying to."
He said wolves and European brown bears have been kept successfully in German and Swedish zoos for years.


http://www.animaladvocates.com/watchdog.pl?md=read;id=5192

The evidence is here in this video as well...




If a group of large bears can't just rip this wolf in half than no way can they just decapitate one with a single swipe.
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