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BBC Bias : Kaziranga: The park that shoots people to protect rhinos

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Kaziranga: The park that shoots people to protect rhinos

By Justin RowlattSouth Asia correspondent
  • 10 February 2017

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The authorities at a national park in India protect the wildlife by shooting suspected poachers dead. But has the war against poaching gone too far?

Kaziranga National Park is an incredible story of conservation success.
There were just a handful of Indian one-horned rhinoceros left when the park was set up a century ago in Assam, in India's far east. Now there are more than 2,400 - two-thirds of the entire world population.
This is where David Attenborough's team came to film for Planet Earth II. William and Catherine, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, came here last year.
But the way the park protects the animals is controversial. Its rangers have been given the kind of powers to shoot and kill normally only conferred on armed forces policing civil unrest.

At one stage the park rangers were killing an average of two people every month - more than 20 people a year. Indeed, in 2015 more people were shot dead by park guards than rhinos were killed by poachers.
Innocent villagers, mostly tribal people, have been caught up in the conflict.
Rhinos need protection. Rhino horn can fetch very high prices in Vietnam and China where it is sold as a miracle cure for everything from cancer to erectile dysfunction. Street vendors charge as much as $6,000 for 100g - making it considerably more expensive than gold.
Indian rhinos have smaller horns than those of African rhinos, but reportedly they are marketed as being far more potent.
But how far should we go to protect these endangered animals?
I ask two guards what they were told to do if they encountered poachers in the park.

"The instruction is whenever you see the poachers or hunters, we should start our guns and hunt them," Avdesh explains without hesitation.
"You shoot them?" I ask.

"Yah, yah. Fully ordered to shoot them. Whenever you see the poachers or any people during night-time we are ordered to shoot them."
Avdesh says he has shot at people twice in the four years he has been a guard, but has never killed anybody. He knows, however, there are unlikely to be any consequences for him if he did.

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The government has granted the guards at Kaziranga extraordinary powers that give them considerable protection against prosecution if they shoot and kill people in the park.
Critics say guards like Avdesh and Jibeshwar are effectively being told to carry out "extrajudicial executions".
Getting figures for how many people are killed in the park is surprisingly difficult.
"We don't keep each and every account," says a senior official in India's Forest Department, which oversees the country's national parks.

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Image captionGuards like Avdesh and Jibeshwar have considerable powers

The director of the park, Dr Satyendra Singh, is based at the park's impressive colonial-era headquarters.
He talks about the difficulties of tackling poachers in the park, explaining that the poaching gangs recruit local people to help them get into the park but that the actual "shooters" - the men who kill the rhinos - tend to come from neighbouring states.
He says the term "shoot-on-sight" does not accurately describe how he orders the forest rangers to deal with suspected poachers.

"First we warn them - who are you? But if they resort to firing we have to kill them. First we try to arrest them, so that we get the information, what are the linkages, who are others in the gang?"
Dr Singh reveals that just in the past three years, 50 poachers have been killed. He says it reflects how many people in the local community have been lured into the trade as rhino horn prices have risen. As many as 300 locals are involved in poaching, he believes.
For the people who live around Kaziranga the rising death toll has become a major issue.

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Kaziranga is densely populated, like the rest of India. Many of the communities here are tribal groups that have lived in or alongside the forest for centuries, collecting firewood as well as herbs and other plants from it. They say increasing numbers of innocent villagers are being shot.
In one of the villages that borders the park live Kachu Kealing and his wife. Their son, Goanburah, was shot by forest guards in December 2013.
The only picture they have of him is a fuzzy reproduction of the young man's face.

Goanburah had been looking after the family's two cows. His father believes they strayed into the park and his son - who had severe learning difficulties - went in to try and find them. It is an easy mistake to make. There are no fences or signs marking the edge of the park, it just merges seamlessly into the surrounding countryside and fields.
The park authorities say guards shot Goanburah inside the forest reserve when he did not respond to a warning.
"He could barely do up his own trousers or his shoes," his father says, "everyone knew him in the area because he was so disabled."
Kachu Kealing does not believe there is any action he can take now, especially given the unusual protection park guards have from prosecution. "I haven't filed a court case. I'm a poor man, I can't afford to take them on."

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Conservation efforts in India tend to focus on protecting a few emblematic species. The fight to preserve them is stacked high with patriotic sentiment. Rhinos and tigers have become potent national symbols.
Add to this the fact that Kaziranga is the region's principal tourist attraction - its 170,000 or more annual visitors spend good money here - and it is easy to see why the park feels political pressure to tackle its poaching problem head on.
In 2013, when the number of rhinos killed by poachers more than doubled to 27, local politicians demanded action. The then head of the park was happy to oblige.
MK Yadava wrote a report which detailed his strategy for tackling poaching in Kaziranga. He proposed there should be no unauthorised entry whatsoever. Anyone found within the park, he said, "must obey or be killed".
"Kill the unwanted," should be the guiding principle for the guards, he recommended.
He explained his belief that environmental crimes, including poaching, are more serious that murder. "They erode," he said, "the very root of existence of all civilizations on this earth silently."
And he backed up his tough words with action, putting this uncompromising doctrine into practice in the park.

The numbers of people killed rose dramatically. From 2013 to 2014 the number of alleged poachers shot dead in the park leapt from five to 22. In 2015 Kaziranga killed more people in the park than poachers killed rhinos - 23 people lost their lives compared to just 17 rhinos.
And, as the park's battle against poaching gathered in intensity, there were to be other casualties.
In July last year, seven-year-old Akash Orang was making his way home along the main track through the village, which borders the park.
His voice falters as he recounts what happened next. "I was coming back from the shop. The forest guards were shouting, 'Rhinoceros! Rhinoceros!'" He pauses. "Then they suddenly shot me."
The gunshot blasted away most of the calf muscle on his right leg. The injuries were so serious he had to be rushed to Assam's main hospital five hours away.
He was there for five months and had dozens of operations but, despite the hospital's efforts, Akash can still barely walk.
His father, Dilip Orang, bends down and removes the bandage from the boy's leg to display the wound. His leg appears to be stripped of its skin - the calf muscle is bunched into tight ball. It doesn't flex. "They took the muscle from here and grafted it here," he says. "But it hasn't worked very well. Just look at it."

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captionAkash has not fully recovered and has to be carried to the shop by his brother

It is clear just how terrible his injuries are when Akash gets up to move out of the sun. He can barely limp the few feet into the shade. His older brother now has to carry him to the local shop.
"He has changed," Dilip says. "He used to be cheerful. He isn't any more. In the night he wakes up in pain and cries for his mother."
The park admits it made a terrible mistake. It paid all his medical expenses and gave the family almost 200,000 rupees ($3,000; £2,400) in compensation. Not much given the scale of Akash's injuries, says his father, who worries whether his son will ever make a living.
The crippling of Akash led to a huge outcry from villagers. It was the culmination of long-simmering disquiet over the mounting death toll in the park. Hundreds marched on the park headquarters.
In a house a short walk from the park HQ, human rights campaigner Pranab Doley, himself a member of a local tribe, pulls out a bag stuffed with paperwork. He has made a series of requests under India's Right to Information Act and says the replies show that many cases aren't followed up properly.
"In most cases you don't have things like the magisterial inquiry, the forensic report, the post mortem reports," he says, rifling through the stacks of paper.
The park says that it's not responsible for investigating the killings, and whatever action it does take follows the law. Even so, some of Mr Doley's documents reveal a surprising lack of information. He pulls out a table listing deaths in one of the park's four districts. It shows nine suspected poachers killed in one year, six of whom are recorded as unidentified.

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Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionThe Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have visited the park

And there are other indications that careful investigation is not a priority when it comes to wildlife crime in Assam. The park says that in the last three years just two people have been prosecuted for poaching - a striking contrast to the 50 people who were shot dead in the park in the same period.
The park justifies the number of deaths, saying the figures are so high because the heavily armed poaching gangs engage guards in deadly shoot-outs. However, the statistics indicate that these "encounters" are more one-sided than the park suggests. Once again, firm figures are hard to come by, but according to the reports we can find just one park guard has been killed by poachers in the past 20 years, compared with 106 people shot dead by guards over the same period.
Mr Doley argues the high number of deaths is because, at least in part, of the legal protection the park and its guards enjoy. "This kind of impunity is dangerous," he says. "It is creating animosity between the park and people living in the periphery of the park."
That animosity is deepened because so many of the local community are tribal people who claim they and their ancient way of life are - like the animals the park is trying to protect - also endangered.
Their cause has been taken up by Survival International, a London-based charity. It argues that the rights of tribal people around the park are being sacrificed in the name of wildlife protection.
"The park is being run with utmost brutality," says Sophie Grig, the lead campaigner. "There is no jury, there's no judge, there's no questioning. And the terrifying thing is that there are plans to roll [out] the shoot at sight policy across [the] whole of India."

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Image captionVillagers are angry about evictions

Her strong language is testimony perhaps to the concern felt by activists like her that traditional communities might be sacrificed in the name of wildlife protection.
She says some of the biggest animal conservation charities in the world, including the World Wildlife Fund, have turned a blind eye to the activities of the park.
"WWF describes itself as a close partner of the Assam Forest Department," says Ms Grig. "They've been providing equipment and funds to the forest department. Survival has repeatedly asked them to speak out against this shoot-on-sight policy and extrajudicial executions which they have so far failed to do."
According to the WWF India website, it has funded combat and ambush training for Kaziranga's guards and has provided specialist equipment including night vision goggles for the park's anti-poaching effort.
"Nobody is comfortable with killing people," says Dr Dipankar Ghose, who helps run much of WWF's conservation programme in India. "What is needed is on the ground protection. The poaching has to stop."
The bulk of WWF's funding comes from individual donations. So how would the WWF's donors feel about the organisation's involvement with a park facing allegations of killing, maiming and torturing? Dr Ghose does not answer the question directly.
"Well, as I said, we are working towards it. We want the whole thing to reduce - we don't want poaching to happen, and the idea is to reduce it involving all our partners. It is not just the Kaziranga authorities but also the enforcement agencies, also the local people. So I think the main thing is to work with the local people."

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Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionThe park is popular with both Indian and foreign visitors
And there are plenty of conservationists that accept that, in some circumstances, there must be a tough response to poachers. "No park would exist in India without having regular anti-poaching operations," says naturalist and writer Valmik Thapar. "Anti-poaching is an essential element of conservation."
"There are some that do it well. There are some that fail miserably… and they don't have any tigers. So there are some tiger reserves in India, that actually don't have any tigers at all because they have all been poached.
"In some exceptional cases you can use the gun against the gun, but in other places in India you need to use community intelligence, because the local community are the eyes and ears of the forest."
Three months after Akash was shot and villagers marched on park headquarters once again - this time to protest allegations of torture.
Mono Bora was sitting at a roadside cafe when he was picked up by forest guards. He claims he was punched in the face repeatedly as he was driven to park headquarters. Once inside the offices the questioning became even more violent.
"They gave me electric shocks here on my knees, and here on my elbows. And here on my groin too." Mr Bora describes how he was tied in a stress position to bamboo staves.

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Image captionVillage leader Biren Koch believes innocent people have been targted
"They kept on hitting me," he says. The ordeal lasted for three hours until finally his assailants became convinced they had the wrong man.
Kaziranga confirmed it did bring Mono Bora in for questioning but categorically denies any harm came to him, adding that it "never uses electric shock during interrogation".
The chief of Mono Bora's village picked him up from the park headquarters. Biren Kotch says he did not believe Mr Bora had any involvement in poaching. "How can they justify torture?"
But it isn't just the anti-poaching effort that threatens local people. Big wild animals like tigers and rhinos need lots of space.
To accommodate them India is planning a massive expansion of its network of national of parks. It is great news for conservation, but the plans involve relocating 900 villages. More than 200,000 people will have to leave their homes, it is estimated.
Kaziranga will double in size and an eviction order has been issued. State police recently evicted two villages amid chaotic scenes in which stone-throwing villagers were beaten with batons and fired on by police. Two people - a father of two and a young female student - were killed.

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Image captionSophia Khatum’s husband was shot dead by police in the demonstration against the evictions
Diggers were brought in and the national park provided a team of elephants to help raze every home to the ground.
In the wreckage of the village critics might see more evidence of a brutal approach to conservation. The problem is the park's tactics appear to have worked. Since the crackdown in the park began in 2013 the numbers of rhinos poached has fallen back. Last year just 18 rhinos were killed.
But the important question is what the long term cost will be, says Pranab Doley, the tribal rights campaigner. He believes the park's behaviour betrays a misguided attitude to conservation. "That's what their policy and philosophy is - move the people out of here and create pure pristine forest."
He says the park is on a collision course with local tribal people. If it gets its way, he says, it will destroy the ancient culture of tribal people like him, but could also end up frustrating its own efforts to protect its animals.
"Without the people taking care of the forest, no forest department will be able to protect Kaziranga. It's the human shield which is protecting Kaziranga."
Of course, there's no arguing that endangered species must be protected and preserved, but the costs on the human community need to be taken into account too.

Additional photos by David Reid
Our World: Killing for Conservation is at 21:30 GMT on Saturday 11 February on the BBC News Channel and this weekend on BBC World News
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Many times i rise the point 'How media (western)is always negative about Asians/Indians'.If you see the tone of the article it indicates Government of India is killing/evicting innocent villagers to save One horned Rhinos.

If Rhino population is decreasing gradually then many articles on, 'How Barbaric Asians/Indians are killing there wild Animals?'

If we successful in protecting the wild animals then, 'How these Barbaric Indians are killing poor villagers to save Rhinos' 

In both the cases blame Indians.

Few say what about human rights violations?? 

Here comes the western media propaganda - Make a small issues as a CIVIL WAR and ignore larger positive issues.

Same in the case of Wild Asian elephants....Western Media never show 600 Asians annually killed by wild Elephants, Asian elephants population is increasing gradually and they won't be killed/hunted (like wild boars/wolves) due to their cultural significance in Asia but Western Media always propagates 'see Barbaric Asians drive/tame few Asian Elephants is the worst animal rights violation in the world'. Angry

Few say, what about Elephants rights violation?? 

IS Zoo (four walls jail/ sanctuary) happy place for elephants?? 
How on earth you expect four ton elephant who works minimum 12 hours in a day (walks miles and miles in jungle) in the wild stay HEALTHY under four walls??

@brotherbear  @Pckts and rest
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It isn't a surprise that people let their emotions rule them when looking at facts, which is why you get to see such a blatant contradiction in this kind of cases.
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Not all from America see things in the same light, Vinay. Just as in India, we are all individuals.
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(02-13-2017, 07:13 PM)brotherbear Wrote: 
Not all from America see things in the same light, Vinay. Just as in India, we are all individuals.

Never said 'ALL AMERICANS', i don't believe even two persons think alike ... i simply blaming western presstitutes media .. 

Re: 'Media' not persons or Americans or Westerns.

btw Greenpeace is the notorious-worst foreign funded NGO  ... Actually it was banned in India. Lol
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The founder of Greenpeace was fired from his own creation because he took protecting wildlife much more seriously than his fellow members. His idea from stopping poachers was very simple; kill them. I agree, but the law may not always be in agreement. 

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(02-13-2017, 07:42 PM)brotherbear Wrote: The founder of Greenpeace was fired from his own creation because he took protecting wildlife much more seriously than his fellow members. His idea from stopping poachers was very simple; kill them. I agree, but the law may not always be in agreement.

That is western media propaganda ....

Actually this stupid greenpeace started furious demonstrations in India against Nuclear Power plants and Coal mines and also collaborated with political parties too.

If they work for welfare of animals or humans or forest i agree with them but Why these stupids want to stop nuke/coal power plants i mean are they can stop in WEST where they produce 30 times more than every Indian?? .... Never, not possible but through western funding they campaign against power plants.

Anyway, they kicked out from India.Hope Africans also kick out these stupid NGO's for their development.These NGO's are as dangerous as Chinese in Africa.
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1 - Your position and our response

For those interested in finding them, the article about Kaziranga can be seen as an expression of a cultural bias of some kind. Others, however, might see it as an attempt to start a debate about a conservation policy that can have severe consequences for some. It depends on your view, that is.

If you decide the article is just another expression of a bias, the debate will focus on the differences between the east and the west. If you decide the article is an attempt to start a debate about a conservation policy that resulted in human casualties, the debate will focus on the policy.

You decided the article was an expression of a cultural bias of some kind. You also asked for a response. This means you are willing to use a forum dedicated to the natural world to discuss an issue that should be debated elsewhere.

It also means you willingly ignored forum rules. I added 'willingly', because it wasn't the first time. You have been involved in problems since you joined the forum. As a result, you have been warned more than once. When the warnings had no effect, you were banned for a week. Again it had no effect.

It could be others have a different opinion, but I'm done with you. This forum was started by people interested in animals, not something else. We don't want our forum hijacked and we don't want to nanny members who don't care about rules all the time. 

2 - The issues raised in your posts

I identified two: human animosity (referring to cultural bias) and the consequences of a conservation policy.

2a - Human animosity

This is a non-issue. Every constitution in every country says humans deserve equal chances. Those involved in constitutions stated that race, colour, religion and ideas should have no influence whatsoever. How clear can you get?

The example set by wise men a few centuries ago, most unfortunately, had few results. Preconceived ideas about race, colour, religion and ideas still thoroughly affect the lives of many millions. In the west, debates about race, colour, culture, religion and ideas erupted nearly everywhere. The result is conflicts all over the place and it's not likely that it will ever stop. One could also say that those paid to uphold the law are failing miserably. Same for many politicians. I would get to a bloody shame, but this is humans for you. 

As for the 'media'. In the west, the days of government and sound decisions for the sake of all are past and gone. Today, just like before, it's everyone for himself. We all know what to expect and have not been disappointed in any way. News, like anything else, now is considered a product you can use to affects opinions or make money and that, apart from a few notable exceptions, is exactly what firms involved in 'news' do. I wouldn't consider their 'reports' and 'documentaries' as vital, but many apparently do. It was to be expected. At any rate, human affairs should not be debated in this forum.     

2b - The consequences of a conservation strategy

I live in a country in the west, but also visited wild places. Based on what I saw (and experienced), I concluded there are no fundamental differences between people living in a modern society and those living in wild places. Most people are not interested in the natural world. Not at all. They also know next to nothing about wild animals. They adapt to the local conditions and hope for the best. 

If people in the west would see a tiger, it's safety first. This means they would capture or kill the tiger as soon as possible. Same for those living in wild places. If they could, I mean. When interviewed or questioned, people say they like the natural world and wild animals everywhere. If you look at their actions, however, one would get to the opposite. Big predators in particular are unwanted everywhere.  

In practical terms, one could say that humans and wild creatures are born enemies. Humans don't like the natural world. They like human-dominated landscapes, freeways and money too. At best, they visit a zoo to see animals. Wild animals know they are unwanted and and try to avoid humans, but they have nowhere to go and they are losing the struggle for space everywhere. At times, problems will erupt. Roques are common, back then and today.   

In some countries, some people try to save the last remnants of the natural world. Although there are local successes (Russia in particular), statistics say it's a lost cause. The reason is more humans every year. They need space and are prepared to take it, no matter what. Wild animals pay. Let's take tigers. Four subspecies have disappeared in the last fifty years. The other four survived the unslaught, but only just. In genetical term, they're all but gone. It's not going to get any better in the future and all of us know.  

Half a century ago, India decided to safe some species from extinction. It was quite something, no matter what people say. It still is, I think. Although the number of tigers has not substantially risen, India still has tigers. Ullas Karanth thinks there is room for 10 000 - 15 000 tigers in India, but it will be difficult to get even halfway. The reason is competition for space. 

Those involved in writing the article about Kaziranga have a point, but it also is a fact that tigers and other animals are still poached every year. Worldwide, we're talking about hundreds of tigers. Every year. Another problem is persistent habitat destruction and poaching of prey animals, resulting in empty forests. The only countries where tiger numbers are more or less consistent are Russia, Nepal, India and Thailand. When you look at the details of the conservation policy in those countries, the conclusion is they take protection and legislation seriously. This means that people who ignore laws can expected to be detected, arrested and sentenced. 

For some reason, those who wrote the Kaziranga article omitted crucial information about the trade in wild animals. It is a fact that the trade in wild animals is substantial. We're talking about tens of billions of dollars every year. With that kind of money, one can expect professional organisations and a matching attitude of those involved. This means that some types are more often seen than others. Those involved in big time poaching have to be considered as pro's prepared to do whatever it takes to succeed. Could be illegal drugs, could be slavery and could be tigers or turtles. Everything that is illegal is interesting, as expensive. They don't care about the consequences of their actions. Not back then and not today. 

Lev Kaplanov, who sounded the bell for Amur tigers in the forties of the last century, was killed well before his time. Nobody was arrested, but they think poachers were involved. Rangers working in Russia today are more active than before. Not a few of them have been threatened by organisations involved in poaching. 

Some decades ago, Kaziranga, like many other reserves, compared to an arena. Rangers have been shot and we're not talking about a few maybe. Poachers also decimated the number of rhinos and tigers. In that part of India (the northeast), local groups fighting for independence have been involved in poaching. I'm not saying that locals were involved most of the time all the time, but there's no question that some knew about poaching and money talks everywhere. On the other hand. Most of them stay away from it. A decision that, considering their plight, has to be considered as remarkable. Poor people in particular often have a sense of pride. Also true.

Some time ago, local politicians and those involved in conservation declared war on poachers in Assam. I remember reading an article in the National Geographic in which the new policy (close to 'shoot to kill') was discussed. In some reserves in Africa, this policy also was applied. Those in charge thought it was the only way to survive. When people able to count to three opt for a decision like that, despair usually is close. Wars, apart from destruction, have two disadvantages. One is they open doors you want to keep closed. Two is victims. The poor and the innocent usually are the ones who suffer most.      

As the number of humans rises, the competition for space will sharpen. It's likely there will be two groups: one interested in selling the 'products' of the natural world (wild animals) and one interested in saving them. Those prepared to fight for the natural world suffer from a lack of funds and a clear policy. As a result, poachers are on top of the situation. 

At the moment, I can understand the policy to remove villages from national reserves and to tighten security. The Jurassic Parks that will be created in this way seem to be the best way to preserve something on its way out. This policy has to be applied with force, but any force will result in a counter force sooner or later.
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(02-13-2017, 07:49 PM)Vinay Wrote: That is western media propaganda ....

Actually this stupid greenpeace started furious demonstrations in India against Nuclear Power plants and Coal mines and also collaborated with political parties too.

If they work for welfare of animals or humans or forest i agree with them but Why these stupids want to stop nuke/coal power plants i mean are they can stop in WEST where they produce 30 times more than every Indian?? .... Never, not possible but through western funding they campaign against power plants.

Anyway, they kicked out from India.Hope Africans also kick out these stupid NGO's for their development.These NGO's are as dangerous as Chinese in Africa.

Well yes, Western media is a bunch of "taking sides/political/social justice" crap, but almost all other forms of media are doing the same (or starting to do the same...). Makes me want to become a wildman like the Andamanese.

Greenpeace's public stance is nice, but the hidden agenda behind it is full of corporate greed and profit-earning. Just like most other companies, and even most NGO's. Now granted, there are some NGO's/organizations that are actively engaging themselves to help wildlife and nature through physical means, not just the ones who spread a message ("Every day, 1000 lions are dying from poaching...") and don't do anything to alleviate the problem.
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(02-13-2017, 08:50 PM)peter Wrote: When questioned, people like the natural world and wild animals everywhere. If you look at their actions, however, one would get to the opposite.

This. This rule here can be applied to almost every human I've met in public who state that they like nature and wildlife. They like the concept of wildlife but hate the reality of it when it comes near them. Members on this forum actually go to the natural world, and learn to like, respect, and not harm wild animals throughout their ventures: that is a real respect of the natural world.

Actions rule over words everytime.
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The claim of Greenpeace's "hidden agenda" is baseless, they are a non profit and abide with in the guidelines assigned to them.
Their financials are public knowledge and available right here

2015 financials

They haven't broken a law, they have been fighting for the natural world for a long time and do more to help than most.

Vinay wrote
"Why these stupids want to stop nuke/coal power plants i mean are they can stop in WEST where they produce 30 times more than every Indian?? "
If you think this isn't a highly controversial debate in the US, you'd be mistaken. They don't just work over seas, they have activists in the states as well.

Now in regards to Kaziranga.
Say what you will about the tactics, what you cannot deny is the fact that it is working!
Rhino numbers have increased 10 fold since the implementation of a devoted task force. Now that doesn't mean that this comes with out controversy, but that is the job of the media. To show all sides and let the information gather and use it to help the public form an opinion. There is no task force/police enforcement that is perfect, it's a constant evolution of tactics and diplomacy. Every police unit has flaws but it's their job to correct them and if they don't than its the media's job to say something about it. Once media is silenced or denied an outlet than the freedom of the people is tested. This is exactly what's occurring in the US at the moment, so instead of calling the media bias or false, use the media, all of it.
It's your job to find the information available and come to a conclusion on what you think is right or wrong. Be thankful for the media, it's a mega phone for the little guys who may not know what's going on with out it. Does some have more credibility than others, absolutely but it's your job to find out which you prefer.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
-Oscar Wilde
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( This post was last modified: 02-15-2017, 12:16 PM by Vinay )

My stand and Govt of India is clear on this issue British Bullsh* &Co Journalists are black listed today. I know these rouge media outlets and Western funded NGO's don't understand civilized language.Hope BBC will be banned in India. Lol

NTCA blacklists BBC journalists, feels poaching report projected things at Kaziranga in a bad way

BBC journalists face issues after running an article on Assam's Kaziranga National Park, NTCA feels it showed KNP in bad light.

The memo - issued on February 13 - said the BBC News South-Asia Bureau sought a permission from it to accompany and film the 'Task Force' of KNP as it undertakes night patrol to protect the tiger and rhinoceros at the reserve.

However, the crew "deviated from the original synopsis and dishonoured the undertaking provided," said the order.

Dr Satyendra Singh, director, Kaziranga Tiger Reserve, said, "In the article, the immunity provided to forest officials under Section 197 of the CrPC has been misconstrued as a 'shoot-to-kill' policy. We also learnt later that they dramatised the situation and forced our guards to make statements for the camera."

Rohini Saikia, divisional forest officer, Eastern Assam, said his department was really upset with the projection of things in a wrong way.

"BBC has displayed scant understanding of the laws in place. The KNP or tiger reserve authorities are not uprooting villages or locals. The truth is that they are only working as per court orders to evict encroachers," said Rohit Choudhury, wildlife activist from Assam.
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( This post was last modified: 02-15-2017, 04:54 PM by Rishi Edit Reason: Link not active )

Hey guys, I write on Quora.

A question was asked, Do you agree with the guards being allowed to shoot poachers in order to protect the rhinos in Kaziranga National Park?

I was requested for answer & I responded. Feel free to read it here:
(Some1 PLEASE tell me how to share links & upload videos)
Here, I copy-pasted it:
I've seen it & is quite shocked!!!
About how BBC can simply choose to overlook information selectively to make a point in their story.

It's like what Bangladeshis say about BSF shooting at the smugglers…or Kashmiris whining about army killing their “Freedom fighters”. 
I'm sure if BBC undermined them, lotsa Indian would be outraged.. But for some reason people who protects India borders enjoys much more public support than the people who protect India.

The forest-guards use old .22 & .303 rifles & the Poachers use Chinese (obviously) Kalasnikovs. Thus, they hold a slight advantage at longer ranges & not always can afford to take the risk of approaching potential poachers. Few decades ago Kaziranga was almost decimated by massive wildlife trade, some whistle blowers had to die. Gunbattles used to rage, & results not always going in favour of the foresters.
Now, the People are allowed upto a certain distance inside the forest, beyond which you are NOT supposed to go. Anybody seen in the core area risks getting shot, especially so after sunset. What's the logic behind this??..
Well, the shooters come from outside & pay a poor local villagers a paltry sum to track a rhinos movements. So, if a non-personel, who is supposed to have NO business there AT THAT TIME, is seen in a forbidden part of the core area, deep inside the park, he is assumed to be an poacher or their aide & shot to kill.

If you see the graphs they have presented, you'll find how number of rhinos poached have soared recently, that means so has the activity of poachers..Thus more dead poachers (Yes, the villagers told BBC their sad stories, but other than that retarded guy & that boy Akash, every single one could have been a tracker). 
Just because a guy has a family doesn't mean he's innocent.

I mean, the Forest Department has to spend a lot of its meagre funds (read: begged money from WWF) on giving its men counter-ambush & combat trainings!!!!!! THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT!!..

I'm not saying all is right at Kaziranga, it isn't..
But the report was too one-sided & biased to come to any conclusion…It’s like they think that the under-paid men who willingly risk their lives everyday, are lying & everybody else is telling the truth.
Everything not saved will be lost. - Nintendo 

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Beneath all this is hidden the real Evil - Chinese traditional medicine and "pharmacy", the most criminal syndicate on the Planet or more widely - Chinese supersticious mind. If somebody should be hunted down and shooted - this are Chinese and Vietnamese traditional "pharmacists" and "doctors"...
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