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Any one watch "Before the Flood?"

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( This post was last modified: 11-01-2016, 10:35 PM by Pckts )

I really enjoyed it and it was eye opening for sure, especially the part about beef agriculture.
https://www.beforetheflood.com/explore/t...evel-rise/

I'm already aware about the harmful nature of animal agriculture and its one of the reasons I try to be as "vegan" as possible.... most of the time.
But to see just how much methane they produce and learn how much of our agriculture is actually devoted to it over farming for vegetables and grains... above 90% of all agriculture in the US is devoted to beef farms and feeding them.

The other part that really struck me was this:

It opens your eyes to the more "unstable or violent" parts of the world and what stands out is that their natural resources are vanishing and they are fighting over what little is left, I can't help but to think that is possibly the future we leave all of our children. Our resources are vanishing, all over, not just in 3rd world countries.
I think that it's already too late, the global heating is happening, many species are in deep trouble, us included. But that doesn't mean its too late, but it does mean that it will not be the next generation that feels the relief, but a few generations down the road that will actually see the benefits if we were to completely change to no emissions right now.

As an American, I'm also disgusted in the political bureaucracies that get in way of us going completely green. The denials that you hear from people with heavy financial ties to the destruction of the world is heartbreaking,


Anyway, what did you guys think about it?
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(11-01-2016, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote: I really enjoyed it and it was eye opening for sure, especially the part about beef agriculture.
https://www.beforetheflood.com/explore/t...evel-rise/

I'm already aware about the harmful nature of animal agriculture and its one of the reasons I try to be as "vegan" as possible.... most of the time.
But to see just how much methane they produce and learn how much of our agriculture is actually devoted to it over farming for vegetables and grains... above 90% of all agriculture in the US is devoted to beef farms and feeding them.

The other part that really struck me was this:

It opens your eyes to the more "unstable or violent" parts of the world and what stands out is that their natural resources are vanishing and they are fighting over what little is left, I can't help but to think that is possibly the future we leave all of our children. Our resources are vanishing, all over, not just in 3rd world countries.
I think that it's already too late, the global heating is happening, many species are in deep trouble, us included. But that doesn't mean its too late, but it does mean that it will not be the next generation that feels the relief, but a few generations down the road that will actually see the benefits if we were to completely change to no emissions right now.

As an American, I'm also disgusted in the political bureaucracies that get in way of us going completely green. The denials that you hear from people with heavy financial ties to the destruction of the world is heartbreaking,

Anyway, what did you guys think about it?

I didn't watch Leo's documentary, but I will make several comments towards the topic relating to it.

Humans must decline in number (or at least urbanization or industry) to keep our planet from becoming a wasteland. This means to completely stop breeding, to stop keeping the majority of resources to top 1%, and to destroy our materialism. This is why I am abstaining from having any children, living a more minimalist lifestyle, and trying to better myself financially/physically/mentally as much as possible (execpt the vegan lifestyle, I am quite carnivorous).

Simple answer to a complicated problem, and easier said than done, indeed. But this is my cold, hard, truthful opinion. 
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I think we must adapt, many countries are going solar or reducing their greenhouse gasses immensely. It's really the US AND CHINA who are ruining the atmosphere, and China's is more committed to changing this than the US, sadly.
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( This post was last modified: 11-02-2016, 08:09 AM by Polar )

As another addition, there is also the major question of complete comfort/security/responsibility of gov't vs self-reliance/total personal responsibility (also discussed this in NationWarrior).

As we all know, most (if not all) modern humans love to have the comforts already displayed in modern society (mass-produced food, large-scale infrastructure for job opportunities and housing options, easily accessible entertainment), yet to have these comforts one would have to break nature's balance by installing power lines, skyscrapers, radio towers, etc...and this obviously leads to nature's demise.

The ones living in nature, or wildmen, don't take anything for granted: after all, they've worked hard for what they got without that materialistic mindset that is seen in modern humans. Same rule applies to wild animals and everything else living in the natural world.

Perhaps, humans should go right back to the course of nature, but again, that is easier said than done since humans don't really care that much about nature and only care about their complete comfort.
"Be the reason someone smiles. Be the reason someone feels loved and believes in the goodness in people."

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