Smilodon populator

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(05-13-2022, 08:27 AM)jrocks Wrote: i did some more looking into it to see if i could find any populator specimens that were estimated to be around the range of this borneo specimen, i found Prevosti and Martin in 2013 estimated a humerus and tibia and some dental bones of populator to be 517 kg, the populator specimen in the Sherani 2019 study was said to be 450 kg, and then there was a populator specimen that Peter Lund estimated to be more than 500 kg, but that specimen then got destroyed in the fire of the national museum of Rio De Janeiro in 2018, were these 3 specimens larger or smaller in size compared to the 405 mm humerus found by kurten and werdelin in 1990 and the 16.07 inch skull? also are there any pictures of the specimen peter lund estimated before it got destroyed

I have my doubts about this information. As far I now Peter Lund never made an estimation of weight, there is no document about him doing that.

About the estimations, they are dependant in the formulas en methods, this table from Werdelin et al. (2018) summarize all the estimations of weight for the Smilodon genus, and Lund is not there:

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Here we can see the methods and the bones used for those weights, from my part I think that the one from Christiansen & Harris (2005) is still the most reliable, for the moment.

By the way, Kurten and Wenderlin (1990) did not presented any long bone measurements, but Berta (1985) did, here are the measurements:

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Finally, I will like to see the evidence, the news report, or any evidence, stating that those 3 specimens of S. populator were destroyed, as I still don't see a report about that. Reply