Smilodon populator

[jrocks]

(05-13-2022, 08:38 AM)LonePredator Wrote:

(05-13-2022, 08:27 AM)jrocks Wrote:

(05-13-2022, 04:45 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(05-13-2022, 04:02 AM)jrocks Wrote: oh wow, so this means that the bornean tiger could rival populator in weight or even surpass it

Yes, because even when Panthera members are not as robust as Smilodon members, the size itself of this specimen compensate it.

this borneo specimen must have been absolutely massive. i did some more looking into it to see if i could find any populator specimens that were estimated to be around the range of this borneo specimen, i found Prevosti and Martin in 2013 estimated a humerus and tibia and some dental bones of populator to be 517 kg, the populator specimen in the Sherani 2019 study was said to be 450 kg, and then there was a populator specimen that Peter Lund estimated to be more than 500 kg, but that specimen then got destroyed in the fire of the national museum of Rio De Janeiro in 2018, were these 3 specimens larger or smaller in size compared to the 405 mm humerus found by kurten and werdelin in 1990 and the 16.07 inch skull? also are there any pictures of the specimen peter lund estimated before it got destroyed

Can you attach the sources you are talking about?

this one is the sherani study which is from 2016, i thought it was the 2019 study but i realized that after i made the above comment, he shows the estimation on the last slide https://peerj.com/preprints/2327v2/ 

heres an image of the 517 kg specimen estimation https://carnivora.net/smilodon-populator-t427-s15.html

for the one that i said peter lund estimated a specimen and got a figure of around 500 kg, i unfortunately dont have any images of that estimation, i only know because a guy named mojave on carnivora mentioned it, it was a fossil from Lagoa Santa, MG, Brazil. If you look up the fire that happened to that museum it does mention that a smilodon populator fossil got destroyed, however i just cant find any images of that fossil. I was just curious as to how these 3 specimens of populator compared in size to the 405 mm humerus and the 408.4 mm skull, or those 2 as the lund one may be pretty hard to find Reply