Which are stronger pound for pound Herbivores or Carnivores?

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(12-26-2018, 11:18 PM)Spalea Wrote: Cheetahs can run over 500 meters, lions seldom more than 100 meters. Obviously these two predators are not in the same category. Lions are ambush predators like tigers. But because they often hunt in more open spaces and in pride they can combine their efforts and thus, be more efficient over a bigger area than a solitary felid hunter.

Bears don't run as fastly as the felids but yes, despite their weight and morphology, they don't lack stamina and can run over longer distances.

Wild canids are pursuit predators par excellence. They are able to run and hunt over several kilometers and, in numbers, to kill an exhausted big prey.

IMO, "pound for pound" herbivores aren't stronger than predators. Of course, because of  their weight (more than 600 kilos to 1200 kilos), big bovids are stronger, muscularly speaking, than any felid. But why would be they more performing "pound for pound" ?

I agree, but when bears run about 60 km/h and tigers are said to run 65 km/h, I think, that it is ok to say, that bears are comparable to slowest big cats in running speed even though with bear there is maybe a little illusion that it wouldn´t be able to run as fast, when looking them especially before hibernation. Their stamina is of course in totally different level than big cats.

Then again these comparisons pound to pound are really problematic without any reliable and comparable tests. If looking only muscle fibers, myocytes etc. there can be made claims and hypotheses. But far from simple and clear. There are so many variables with different species. I don´t remember seeing any real research about animals compared to pound to pound. Some articles based on pretty much... to nothing really :) One zoologist say something, another something else, then some reporter make an article like "top 10 strongest animals in the world pound to pound"... then when looking closer, just rubbish, but nice headline to sell or use as a "clickbait". Reply