Which are stronger pound for pound Herbivores or Carnivores?

[Polar]

Since I estimated a 500-pound grizzly to be between 12-15 humans strong when discussing pulling motions, I expect the polar bear of 1000-pounds to be around 30-32 humans strong when pulling.

The quote about "the tiger equaling the traction force of 30 men" is false as heck.

I remember there was a video back (now mind you, one of the tiger videos from a tiger enthusiast of Yuku: won't disclose his name) depicting an average-looking male tiger dragging a gaur of giant proportions into a thicket, with only his jaws. From what I saw, the gaur looked to be 2000-2500 pounds in total. So about 5-6 times the tiger's body weight with just its jaws and it didn't look like it was even struggling excessively. Dragged it for about 15 meters, then stopped and prowled away further into the thicket.

@peter, on the "Big Cat Strength" thread, mentioned an account of Sir Locke watching a tigress, a tigress, dragging the carcass of a fully-grown buffalo a short distance. It took a four-wheel drive truck with a winch to attach to the buffalo just to budge it. Probably 6-7 times her own weight with just her jaw. I don't know many herbivores (possibly aside from powerhouse horses, some bovines, and rhinos) that can do with even their whole body into it. It is easier to drag pushing forward than pulling backward with just a jaw. Reply