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08-26-2022, 09:44 PM( This post was last modified: 08-26-2022, 11:25 PM by AndresVida )
(08-24-2022, 06:45 PM)Pckts Wrote: Rob literally stated he can’t remember what he had for breakfast let alone a lion weighed 25 years ago. And he “thinks” Jon Dixon was there, again doesn’t remember nor do you have any other confirmation on that.
And the other person wasn’t there and states a second hand source. Again, these aren’t first hand sources who participated, these are second hand sources trying to remember from someone who may have been involved.
The person Willie Coetzee is a scientist and professional in his field and is basically using the nature conservation official (scientist) he knows personally as the source. A source from scientists that backed it up each other. Personal communication are common sources in scientific documents.
As the source is from scientists that have communicated each other. So there is no discussion about the source from Willie Coetzee and the Nature Conservation Official.
What basically ends everything is that Rob The Ranger was himself there 25 years ago and remembers that he was weighed, darted on a bait. The person John Dixon also confirmed that he was indeed there. We have the numbers but at least his memories are everything but contradictory to the data given by scientists beside the crucial confirmation of the capture and weighing.
Yes we have some measurements of free-ranging lions suggesting lions are capable of reaching these figures with 272 kg with an empty belly (I estimate to be it like 292-302 kg full) being the prime example.
As forwarded to me the lion was indeed not a cattle killer but was killed for attacking a tourist camp. Dr Richard Kock clearly stated this in the past and also nowadays.
Also I would like to know the reason how actual measurements from scientists and completely independent ranger and guides (they didn't even work there) are "game reserve" claims.