Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

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(03-04-2022, 03:13 AM)SpinoRex Wrote: 1) It was a information by a lodge not by the reserve itself (generally reliable of course but not directly from them) and the same thing happened in other scientific records. They were collared by the Research project with Almero. Recently there was a male collared who came from Namibia (Forgot his name) and he was even bigger than ximpoko. The reserve and the scintists there were contacted so there is no debate. 

2) The male from Etosha was said to have up to 20 kg of meat. Which means the number of 240 kg empty for the non-prime lion was more or less a minimum. I read the male and there was no info about the measurement method but in etosha they measure over curves. Note the 244 kg male was 4-5 years old. Same goes for the lion from the Ndutu region with a weight of 237 kg at just c.4 years.

3) I send you the informations on the homob male coalition. They were all weighed by the director himself back in 1993

1) There is debate on this as the figures are not officially published and accepted by anyone in the scientific community (just be a few of us and partially as is based in emails from third persons), by the way you did not answered my question, why they don't publish the figures? Only emails and personal communications at some point are not enough. We can use them for backup (which is what we normally do here) but certainly a published document is more usefull. It is weird that they deleted the post about the weight of one of those lions.

2) That lion was in his prime, territorial, and the figure of 240 kg is by no chance a minimum, is a maximum and very extreme, after all the sample of all the males in that area weighed 190 kg on average and unadjusted. Dr Hu Berry provided measurements and a picture and he probably measured in straight line as the shoulder height suggest (he shows both straight and in curves). So proably was straight line and remember that Dr Hu Berry worked with lions long before the people from Hobatere started measuring lions, so they measurement methods are much more different (those from Hobatere are a mess). The lion of 244 kg from Hobatere include stomach content; the lion of 235 kg (not 237 kg) was partially estimate (remember that the scale was bottomed) and includes stomach content which suggest that could weight as low as 200 kg (it seems that you forgot that conversation) so they ages are irrelevant.

3) I am going to search it. It weird that since 1993 we don't have a paper about them. Reply