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02-25-2022, 07:25 PM( This post was last modified: 02-25-2022, 09:37 PM by SpinoRex )
(02-25-2022, 03:03 PM)LoveAnimals Wrote:
(02-24-2022, 04:36 AM)SpinoRex Wrote: From the datas i was able to get i got an average of 195 kg (n=90) with at least more than half lions having an empty stomach. Looking at the general weights the empty weight is around 190 kg and the natural weight around 200 kg. The max weight is 253 kg on an empty stomach.
Guate and Khan already explained this very well before I could, but still it should be remarked that no confirmed African Lion population averages at 200 kg.
The general range is like 187-193+ kg, prime males would be higher like at 196-197 kg
While I do estimate and believe Ngorongoro males to average likely in the range of 200-210 kg for their astonishing size, not too far from the general average of the Bengal tiger population of like 214 kg.
But as I said, Guategojira explained that very well already
First of all some obviously did. Especially the data from Dewalt Keet, Roberts and from Smuts pointing towards that weight. In Zimbabwe 18 males averaged 202 kg including one 138 kg lion.Again you have to consider that these weights of 187.5 kg are based on a empty stomach as well as the "prime males of 197 kg", which is a big difference than just a normal weight. So i estimate crater males at around 220 kg unadjusted based on the pictures and the chest girths.
You have to remember that this average of 214 kg isnt like the data of Smuts or other Scientists, Naturalists. You have some of these like Brander(C.India), C.Behaar(Assam, C.Behaar and Duars) and Hewett(terai). Those males in MP(C.India) averaged at a adult age 190.5 kg (n=42) and those form the larger areas like C.Behaar(n=44) and Terai(n=19) at 205 kg and 202 kg respectively. Also i would maybe accept the collection from guate excluding the smaller males which then perfectly fits in the average weight given by Dr Eric Dinerstein (around 460 pounds =208.8 kg) for nonadjusted males of terai