Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

[SpinoRex]

(02-10-2022, 10:35 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(02-05-2022, 09:53 PM)SpinoRex Wrote: In fact he just weighed 41 adult males in Kruger National park and the heaviest was 225 kg but had no stomach content. His sample generally lacked those big ones compared to the data provided by Roberts 1951 (132-251 kg, all ages n=17), MacFarlane and HuBerry

Smuts weighed animals with no stomach content, The lions of Roberts came from hunting records (is a second hand source) and there is no form to know if they were empty or not, Stevenson Hamilton provided weights adjusted for stomach content, and the lions from MacFarlane and Hu Berry were baited and included stomach content, the largest male of 260 kg probably weighed about 240 kg.

Interestingly, the average for the lions of Berry is of 190 kg including stomach content, while those from Smuts average 187.5 kg excluding stomach content. This may suggest that lions in South Africa were indeed heavier than those from Etosha.

Hi,


I know that. I read the page and the data from W.Campbell is really reliable(fair weights and measurements) and it seems he had contact to roberts. I was pretty disappointet that they didnt give an average but ranges. I dont have the weight but the Etosha male was estimated to be at least 240 kg, which is really big and maybe he could have even add weight as he was 5.5 years old. Are the measurements over curve or between pegs? 

Quote:Interestingly, the average for the lions of Berry is of 190 kg including stomach content, while those from Smuts average 187.5 kg excluding stomach content. This may suggest that lions in South Africa were indeed heavier than those from Etosha.

Yes thats true. But looking at the weight revealed by Africat, Van dyk and other measurements of wild lions the weight should be around 200 kg. They should be around the same weight unless the conditions or whatever are different. But the lions of smuts where definetely heavier than those of HuBerry as he included also unhealthy males and so on.

I personally dont believe in any significant differences between lions. Weights arent showing really the (genetical) size but more the condition of an animal. This is exactly what rob told me as well. The question would be are they genetically heavier (which i dont believe or the differences marginal). Asiatic lions from Jhala who were as long and tall as the Kalahari lions from MacFarlane. However the difference in weight was 50 kg with the 5 adult lions of Macfarlane averaging 211 kg. However im interested how heavy Chico would have been in his adulthood as he was at 2.5 yo 206cm long and 188 kg. Reply