Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

[Dennis]

(09-22-2020, 01:46 AM)Yusuf Wrote:

(09-21-2020, 05:27 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(09-21-2020, 04:31 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:

(09-21-2020, 01:07 AM)Yusuf Wrote: New Weight on Namibian Lions

This vid is a clip from BBC Natural History TV's 'Fierce' program. Note the tall, lean, male desert lion (visible ribs showing) in this brief clip, yet he still
weighed in at 217.5kg (after being tranq-darted/examined, as seen in the full program).

that lion honestly doesn't look that big..seen quite a few large lions,that isn't one..wanna see the full doc

It´s 217,5 kg. Here full documentary and when watching at least 31:00-34:30 there is weighing and interesting to watch overall when comparing size to people.

(09-22-2020, 01:35 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 01:25 AM)Yusuf Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 12:35 AM)Shadow Wrote: @Yusuf  You mention study, which would say that tigers get more fractures in fights than lions. But you linked no study and no quotes. If you make such claims, back it up too in some way. What study, by whom and when or the link.

And if you start to bring in carnivora discussions here in negative way, then this is wrong forum. Disagreements happen here too, but when you make strong statements, back it up with something else than talking about other forums.

Hello Shadow,

Eyes
So I think the claim that lions are more robust also agreed by Peter. The skeleton and overall body looks more robust.

Datas
I remember in studies only one Bone were the tiger has the advantage. It was the Ulna bone. The legs were very similar. But the lion had the advantage in the upper arms and shoulders. The back and skull of the lion looks also more Robust for me. 

I made a summary of many datas. 
https://justpaste.it/7li5v

A detailed post about the Shoulders is on my answer to PCKTS.

Fights
Here a recent fight. At 0:05 it starts. Also here again the tiger stores more fat in the belly and chest and has the bit thicker skin and more fat.

And Tiger vs Lion fight accounts can be seen on Wildanimalwarfare. You can see how much often tigers got fractures.

Here a another Account. 

*This image is copyright of its original author

Personally I don't like this topic about fights. Ok but I think I showed why this claim is true. And that aren't nearly all datas. Feel like a fanboy now... 

Best regards

So you have no study then?

I showed the studies about the bones. And also previous fights. And told you were you can find them.

There is overlap among lion and tiger humerus proportions and robusticity:

Look at the graph to the left

*This image is copyright of its original author

□, Panthera leo (N = 17) ◊, Panthera tigris (N = 19)


https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1096-3642.2007.00333.x

Doesn’t matter the averages which are already very close - it depends upon the individual. Cased closed, they are almost the same. Only difference in bones is that tigers have longer back legs to front legs and longer humerus to radius, but robusticity is the same. Reply