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04-19-2022, 04:31 AM( This post was last modified: 04-19-2022, 04:35 AM by GuateGojira )
(04-19-2022, 04:01 AM)Chooser Wrote: If the method used in Russia in the period 1992-2004 was applied in the same way as in northeastern India in the period 1870-1908, it means we have to deduct 5,45 inches (13,84 cm) from the total length 'over curves' to get to the total length measured in a straight line ('between pegs'). The result (294,00 - 13,83 = 280,17 cm、195-13.84=181.16cm) The correct shoulder height should be the length from shoulder to claw minus the front palm, that is, the male tiger is 115-14.2 = 100.8 cm, and the female tiger is 99-11.9 = 87.1 cm.
Basicaly is the same, but not applied in the same form, as the hunters in the past did presed the tape more than modern zoologists to increase the size in some ocations. Experts like Brander, the Maharaja of Cooch Behar and Hewett estimated a difference between 3 - 7 inches with an average about 5 inches (13 cm), but I think that Russian scientists do not presed the tape as much and that is why I estimated at least 10 cm.
Even then, in that scenario of 13-14 cm, you should take something else in count, the head-body of the Russian tigers is from nose to roth of tail when this one is in a angle of 90 degrees (see Kerley et al. (2005) for details), not to the hip end, that means that even when the head-body for males will be about 180 cm straight (I estimate about 183 cm in my graphics), the real head-body will be about 190 cm taking in count a diameter for a tail base of about 10 cm, and this is in straight line.
About the shoulder height, honestly your calculation is completelly unnecesary and even hunters like the Maharaja did measured the shoulder height "between pegs" even when they measured the body length on the curves, you sould read Brown (1893) for details on this, now on the Amur tigers check this:
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The shoulder height is already calculated for the withers to wrist, that will be an standing height. I saw a video (available in Youtube by the way) were we can see that the height of a tigress in Russia is measured in pieces, so that suggest that the arm length was not straight and this will underestimate the real height, but even then, a height of 95 cm for males and 81 cm for females is reliable and accurate.