The Charleston Males

[Leroy]

(04-20-2018, 05:04 PM)Tshokwane Wrote:

(04-20-2018, 10:45 AM)Leroy Wrote: Did they just leave because of pressure from rivals like mantins  

Not at all, the only males they came up against were very young males like the 3 Talamati males or the 3 Mangheni males, both of whom were not even 5 years old at that time, and the Charleston males had no problem chasing them off, it was easy.

The reason they went off somewhere is because the Southern pride females were either all nursing cubs, so they went off to find new females. A comparison to this can be what the Majingilane did in their early days, think 2011-12, were they switched their attention from the Fourways and Styx prides, that were the first they controlled and sired cubs with(2010 and 2011, respectively), to the Tsalala and Sparta prides.

The same can be said of the Notch males in the Mara.

So, in this case what the Charlestons did is something that seems to repeat itself in successful coalitions, where having a well defended, safe territory and prides that are already nursing young and won't get pregnant again, they simply go on looking for more females.

Charlestons were doing great for a while.  It's a shame we don't see them too much anymore.  Wouldn't them leaving mean their pride is now undefended? Males normally expel the youngsters, you are saying they left on their own accord due to lack of mating opportunities, but you then leave behind sub adults that won't be able to defend themselves against new males.  Who sired the 3 talmati males and the 3 mhangeni males?  majingilanes? Reply