Ape Strength: Myth vs Reality

[Shadow]

(12-13-2018, 12:51 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Shadow:

About #7 and #8: I said that the gorilla is a very strong animal, but I didn't compare it with the bears ! No doubt, IMO, that a big bear are stronger than any gorillas, and even pound for pound a gorilla against an equal-weight bear, the bear would have the edge. Any bear know how to fight and kill efficiently, and, I can be wrong, not the gorillas.

Any silver back gorilla, muscularly speaking is much more stronger than a leopard. But the fact to know that , despite of this, a 60-kilo-leopard is able to kill a 180-kilo-silvar-back gorilla, makes me believe that a gorilla isn't at all a vicious animal when it comes to fight. Whereas the leopard, compared to it, is a "professionnal killer". Thus I'm agree too with @brotherbear when he told that the gorillas would have serious problem if they had to interact with tigers in the same biotop. Surely, they would react as orangutans in Sumatra by staying upto the trees all the time.

We have to discern the muscular strength and the ability to fight, to kill. A big plow horse is perhaps muscularly stronger than a lion or a tiger. But no doubt that a big cat would kill it and not the opposite.


Gorillas are very "gentle" animals...

Yes I noticed, that not comparing there so much. I still replied with some comparison mostly in hope to create discussion and maybe wake interest of someone who might have some new information or know someone who might know more. It is so damn difficult to find good information which would be unambiguous. 

Some videos, like those you shared show, that there is strength which has to be admitted, but then again there is room for speculation too. 

And what comes to separating fighting abilities and pure brute strength, that has been my point of view all the time, what I have tried to say. I am interested and curious about brute strength of a gorilla, not about it, that what it can or can´t kill and what then again kills a gorilla. Those issues have been here from others. I have used bear in comparison only to point out, that there are also other robust animals and also showing impressive strength by moving heavy objects etc. For instance digging out of ground a 300-350 kg rock (weight calculated from size of that rock, 40x50x60 cm) and practically throwing it away. Something, what no human could do and what, I think, would be quite a task also for a gorilla. Or would it....? :) 

It would be nice to find out if that kind of cases could be found about gorillas. Reply