Dholes (Cuon alpinus)

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(01-28-2019, 09:29 PM)Sanju Wrote: #116

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Anyway usually big cats flee when there is a pack of big bovines who make counter attacks :) Btw in this we have also one interesting issue. Some people say, that why would dholes make an attack against a tiger and lose pack members. Well... why do tigers time to time make very high risk attacks, even "suicidal"? Why do lions time to time make same kind of moves? This is wrong thread for that discussion, but I just want to use this opportunity to remind a little bit. When people have been discussing about dholes and tigers and about possibility, that there can be rare occasions, when dhole pack even attack a tiger and injure/kill/force it to flee. It has been discussion about rare occasions, not about it, that dholes would do all the time what they wish :)

All animals happen to do in rare occasions things, which look like insane, suicidal, totally insane. Think about porcupine and tiger... is there any other animal actually eating porcupines and by that injuring itself and many times practically committing a suicide? If tigers can do as stupid things, what reason there would be, that dholes couldn´t sometimes push their luck to the limits, especially in situation, where a tiger goes for it to steal a kill...

These matters have so many variables, that it is difficult to put all in one place shortly. But in wildlife word impossible is really a very strong word. Animals do time to time very odd things.

What you said is correct but the "suicidal" attempt is for the purpose of acquiring food and it is the primary and basic need of all organisms followed by perpetuation through reproduction.
So it's worth risk taking. The porcupine case is also similar when tiger is starving...

The interaction between Dhole and Tiger is an inter-specific competition b/w sympatric predators which coexisted because for thousands of years because of this strategy, when tiger threatenes dhole (adults/infants) or vice-versa, the inferior one retreats based on the situation of encounter like out numbering, injury concern etc.., Animals are intelligent. Killing each other in a brawl is very rare incident during extreme conditions like shortage in prey base of that area, so that competition should be reduced by killing juveniles/adults or predation on each other due to hunger etc..,

So, yes they are logistical and do think... and yes Nature is spooky and crazy, unexpectable... Anything is possible. A lioness can adopt a leopard cub/wildebeest calf.

Yes, there are differences and similarities. It is hard to say if all tigers eating porcupines have been starving. Odd behavior anyway and it is not easy to say, that for reason A animals can do like this, but not for reason B. Many times situations are combinations of reasons A and B and there can be factor C and D also effecting to some situation. So in rare cases when certain things click together in right place and time, we can see things, which most people keep impossible. There are still many mysteries in wildlife and it is good to remember it, when looking at some issue.

Time to time we get new footage, sometimes confirming what is supposed, sometimes forcing us to believe in "impossible" :) Reply