Prehistoric Sharks

[Apex Titan]

(06-30-2023, 08:22 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(06-30-2023, 07:34 PM)Apex Titan Wrote: @Spalea  @GuateGojira 

I'll respond to you guys later when I have time.

I was already reading your posts and debate in other Megalodon topic, and been honest you are severily overestimating this animal. Like Spalea said, we know that this is a huge apex predator, but you describe it like an invincible war machine, which is not the case.

Again, like I said to another poster, I don't care about Megalodon because, for me, is just a case of back and forth, we only have its tooth and some vertebrea and that is all, and from that is just pure speculation, its size change every new document and even the new articles that you quote shows a huge bias and lack of knowledge of the same authors, stating things like megalodons eating orcas like snacks, when orcas (modern ones at least) don't even lived with Megalodon. In fact, new hypotesis says that it was the white shark, smaller than the orca, which could help to drive the huge Meg to its extintion.

When I read those news articles I don't know if I am reading a sceintific article or guy trying to sell something. Too much sensacionalism, I will prefer to read the original documents, been honest.

EDIT: I know where this is going. Honestly I just returned from several months and the last thing that I want it to discuss something irrelevant like this. So, I will leave this now, if someone what to believe that Meg was the terminator of the seas is ok, I simple don't care. I will focus in what I DO CARE, which are tigers and other modern animals. I leave the debate to the other posters.

I never once said or implied that megalodon was "invincible". I clearly said, more than once, that a whole pod of Livyatan's are capable of defeating or withstanding a single megalodon. Just because someone says that the megalodon was the undisputed king of the ocean and the greatest apex predator ever, doesn't mean that person is also saying or implying that the megalodon was simply an "unstoppable war machine" which was completely "invincible" or something. No, thats not what I'm saying.

For example, tigers are the undisputed top predators of Asia, and yet they can be killed by other large, dangerous animals such as adult elephants, rhinos, gaur, wild buffaloes who defend against their attack. When wildlife experts call the tiger: "Undisputed Lord of the forest", "Master, owner or Lord of the taiga" etc, does that mean they're implying that the tiger is an "invincible war machine" that can't be killed by another dangerous animal? Of course not.

IMO, (and the opinion of many wildlife experts) the tiger is the ultimate terrestrial apex predator on earth, but does that mean I think the tiger is an "invincible war machine"?? Of course not.

In every major ecosystem (prehistoric era & modern era) there's always been a top predator that reigns supreme over all other animals. This top apex predator will regulate prey and predator populations. This is how nature works. There's almost always a "king" predator at the very top of the food-chain. In the jungles, mountains & forests of Asia (including far east Russia), we have the tiger who reigns supreme, in the open grasslands/savannah's of Africa, we have the lion who reigns supreme, in the Arctic lands, we have the polar bear, in North America we have the gray wolves, brown bears and cougars, and in the Amazon we have the jaguar who rules. In the modern oceans, we have the orcas who reign supreme.

In the prehistoric ocean, the megalodon was certainly the undisputed top predator at the very pinnacle of the marine food-web, and could have killed and eaten anything it wanted to. And the recent studies indicate so.

I honestly think you're highly exaggerating the Livyatan whale. IMHO, it's just a glorified sperm whale, nothing more. Megalodon probably killed and ate Livyatan whales at times:

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https://theconversation.com/megalodon-sh...ion-185118

Due to the megalodon's highest position in the food-chain, it most likely hunted and killed Livyatan whales. 

Remember, what I say about megalodon is not just an opinion of mine, I'm referring to expert authorities, scientists and marine researchers who are adamant, based on scientific studies, that the megalodon was the undisputed top predator of the ocean and could have killed anything in the prehistoric oceans. Reply