Lions of Timbavati

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@criollo2mil yeah we can't say for sure, angles are different, but Avoca seems bigger than the Mangheni cub and checking the date exactly, Mangheni was already born exactly 8 months ago, so he's 8+ months old, but still look smaller than the Avoca.

@Tr1x24 Yeah, we have limited info from most of Kruger, when I talk like that I'm referring to lions with documented feats.

Anyway, Mbiri are just 10yo, not that old, had just left their prime but I think only were in bad shape due to injuries. Scar is looking in top condition and Shaka possibly at least close to top shape.

Avocas had the same age when they were dealing with the Nkhulu and most here said they'd favor them over prime Gijima, that despite the Avoca, although very strong duo, never been anywhere as strong as Mbiris.

We know nothing about Mantimahles besides the fact they look impressive ( especially blond male, his brother not so much ), for all we know, the Ndhzengas for example, might be stronger than them despite being smaller, because we've seen what thet are capable of.

Gijimas and PCM are very strong, no doubt, and PCM also have that big size to back them up in a brawl, but still, as long as Mbiri are in good enough condition, I don't see neither being as strong as them.

The feats of strength displayed by Mbiris are something we've never seen before, not even by their incredibly powerful fathers and uncles, or the Mapogo who were infamous for their fighting prowess.

Gijimas were playing with their mothers at the age where Mbiris were beating strong prime duos like Mapoza and Ross. PCM were getting chased around by OM at the age where the Mbiris had been dominant already for months and being absolute powerhouses.

PCM had never been in a life or death fight, never in a scenario where their opponents could at least match them, but how many times these Mbiris have been caught by multiple males, been badly injured, but made a full recovery?

I don't think PCM would flee in such hypothetical clash, but I believe Mbiris would whoop them in a brawl. The difference in experience is massive. Also it's possible/maybe likely that Mbiris are bigger than even the PCM, there are countless statements about different reserves talking about how huge they are and how they are some of the largest they'd seen, we got such statements about them being huge even when the photographer was watching Mbiris chasing H7 males, and 1/2 H7 male weighed 247kg with partial stomach content, so at the very least the photographer thought Mbiris were similar in size to the H7 male as they called all 4 males huge, not making distinctions.

The PCM in comparison doesn't seem to impress the guides as much, they do, but not to the same degree. I'd be willing to bet Mbiris are taller, maybe a little bit longer, though Makhunga looks at least as bulky as Scar IMO.

As for Gijimas, I'd imagine a similar scenario with the difference that I don't believe they are as physically powerful as the PCM and not having as much experience in proper fights, wouldn't do as well as the PCM in a brawl, I think Mbiris would walk over them.

But as I said earlier, this is as long as the Mbiri are at least as fit as they are right now, if they deteriorate more like they were in the previous months then I wouldn't favor them even against lesser impressive prime duos. Reply