Lions of Timbavati

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(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

@SMK350 I am moving this conversation here, out of the Avocas thread, and to a more pertinent thread. My response to your last in the Avocas thread is as follows:

I never said the BDMs were unimpactful, certainly Mohawk would have something to say in that regard, merely that through my knowledge of the Gijimas and limited knowledge of the BDMs, I believed the Gijimas to have been more so currently. I also believe there is certainly some confusion involved here as well, given the BDMs being discussed were mentioned in the Avoca Males thread, it implied, at least to myself, that we were referring to the two who have been harassing Mohawk these recent weeks.

Which Monwana male was killed by the 4 BDMs?

I have no issues creating a thread for the 4 in Thornybush, if they hold territory and are dominant over a pride, I would only ask that we know there will be somewhat frequent updates on their status. As we have seen with some of the existing coalition threads, and even some of the more recent pride threads, some are more active, and as a result more informative, than others due to the frequency of updates coming from those on the ground, or perhaps the lack of the same. If updates on the BDMs in Thornybush are infrequent at best, then the Timbavati thread would likely remain the best place for posts regarding them. 

Another coalition I failed to mention in my previous comment, would be the two Mbiris, Scar and Shaka. They have certainly had an impact on lion dynamics for some time now, and are currently vying for a pride and territory, though I understand they have already claimed some of the territory. However, recent updates have been rather infrequent, so for now the Timbavati thread is likely the best place for information on them as well.

Just as I have moved this conversation there since we are clearly not discussing the Avocas, or even the BDMs in the northern reaches Sabi Sands, who are harassing the last Avoca at the moment. Reply