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(04-24-2021, 06:50 PM)Potato Wrote: Actually it is common for male lion coalitions to challange for territory at the age of around 4 if they have numerical advantage of 2:1 or more. Beside Monwanas you could look at S Avocas chassiing Matshapiri or Ross facing Giraffe male and Mabande male. Birminghams were around 4 beside Nsuku when they challanged Matimbas. Majingilanes still had Mohawks manes around 1 year after takeover from Mlovathis so they also could be well before 4 years of age at takeovertime. Mbiris were just over 3 when they chassed Mapoza male through Kings Camp and so on...
Not that common, most lions become dominant at 5 or close to 5, then just at 4..
Monwanas just had 4 yrs birthday when they challenged BDM.
Bboys where well over 4 when challenged Matimbas, and become dominant almost at 5 and some over 5.
We dont know exactly birth dates of Majingilanes and Matimbas so that more of speculatio, but they had much superior numbers.. Selatis where also around 5 when they beat Mapogos..
Those few examples of Avocas, Ross and Mbiris clashed vs dominant males in early days are also very rare and not that common, those are only few examples..
Most lions run from dominant males at age 4 and then after 4.5-5 gain more confidence..