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Lions of Timbavati
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 (03-26-2021, 07:14 AM)Gijima Wrote: @Potato @Herekitty Thanks for the IDs. This filled in a lot of missing pieces about what went on in Ngala from 2014-2015. It seems like Matimbas and Giraffe Males were dominant in that area (using that word loosely) and there were cubs born from these males. @Potato is on the money, that first male does look like Slitnose Matimba. And @titose is correct that video is likely the young Skybeds based on age. The photo of the female with the whiteface Giraffe male is probably an Avoca female, Shindzela and Ngala are adjacent to each other, and the Giraffes and Avoca pride were often seen in Ngala at this time. The Giraffe males confronted and were repelled a number of times by the three Northern Matimbas in 14/15. It wasn't until Nov/Dec when Shaka was killed by the Giraffes that Slitnose and Whiteface Matimbas forced out of Ngala to Manyeleti and Orpen. They retained the Scorro pride for another year until Slitnose was killed (probably by the Giraffes) in Jan. 2017. I believe Slitnose had taken a leg injury hunting in 2016 and was an easy target by then. The photo before Mfumo is Whiteface Matimba with a Scorro female. Here is the Giraffe number 2 after taking a beaten and being searated from his bros by the Northern Matimbas in mid-2015. Images by Tom Friedel  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author The two older Giraffes were large and resilient males and had youth and brothers on their side, and once the Matimbas were down to two their defeat was inevitable. However, it should be noted that the famous old warriors didn't give up easily. *This image is copyright of its original author
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