Coalitions of Kruger National Park

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(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: For DeLaportes, you have HRM who is one of the tallest lions around, and 3T who is one of the smallest, so size difference is very noticable there

But how do you know HRM is one of the tallest around and 3T is one of the smalles? Variation in size very well can be much bigger than this. HOw do you know there aren't around even significantly bigger males than HRM or significanly smaller than 3T? In case of 3T you could even make it quite easly as one of his brothers Dominant Tsalala male was much smaller than 3T and yet you can not know if there are not even smaller males around than Dominant Tsalala. 

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: For Bboys, would anybody notice the size difference between Nhenha and Mfumo if they where completely unrelated and never seen together?? No they wouldn't, it would be just a speculation. For long Mfumo was considered to be the biggest of Bboys, because those rangers never saw Nhenha alongside Mfumo, they just seen that Mfumo was bigger then Tinyo and Nsuku.. 

If two males are around same size then I imagine it would be very dificult or imposible to judge which is bigger without seeing them next to each others, but how can you know how much of a difference is between Mbiri, RRM and DM. I imagine that if they would be so even in size then guide would say somethink like "they look roughly same size" or "they are so close that it is very dificult to tell" yet he seemed quite certain of his judgement.

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: You gave 2 examples where size difference is noticable, but i can give you many more where it isnt, and with unrelated males that is.. Just recently Styx/NK, Kinky Tail /s36 male, S. Shishangeni /Last EBM male, S28 males and Hippo Pools male, Sumatra/Hercules then from the past Junior Matimba/Buddy, Mpondos, Blondie and DM Fourways etc.. 

Of course most lion will be about avarage and so close in size to each others quite like humans are (https://www.theifod.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/New-height-distribution-with-legend.jpg) but how would you judge from a photo  which lion is avarage, which is under avarage, which is over avarage? You could not (unless they are in same coalition and you can see vidoe of them walking next to each others ofcourse) unlike someone see them on life.  

Btw I am not sure S. Shishangeni and Fourways should be on your list.

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: And if you want related males.. Majingilanes, even Mapogos where all close in size (except KT), Mantimahles, Shishangenis, Matimbas, Kumanas all close in size and many more i didn't mentioned.. 

Of course in case of related males which spends their whole life together it makes perfect sense to grow to similar size as they have similar or same genetic factor and same environmental factor. Mapogos tho are bad example there as KT and Rasta (especially Rasta) very clearly smaller than Mr T and PB who also were clearly smaller than Dred and Mak so there were quite a lot variation in size within this coalition.

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Seeing them in person 1 by 1 means nothing when there is such a small difference between them.. Its like asking him to tell me, who is bigger Scar Nose Majingilane or Golden Mane, if he never saw them together side by side. 

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I can understand if he compares less impressive/smaller males to big and impressive individual, as he said that Scar is much bigger then young and still not in their prime Tintswalo males, but comparing 3 big and impressive individuals like that is almost impossible, if you dont see them side by side.. 

I bet if you show in person DM, Scar and RRM to 10 people on their own, all of them would prob had different opinion who is the biggest..

Again tho you just assumed how much of a difference is between those individuals which doesn't need to be a correct assumption at all.

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: And how did he compare those 3 individuals?

What it comes to RRM and DM than the guide probably seen them on life countless of times considering for how long those males are dominant in Manyeleti. He did not see Mbiri male as much as he seen DM and RRM tho he definitelly had great visuals when Mbiri male was in Koppies with 3 Mbiri females. 

(08-31-2021, 08:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Its like asking him to tell me, who is bigger Scar Nose Majingilane or Golden Mane, if he never saw them together side by side. 

I believe if a man would watch those individuals on life for enough time (could be months, years, I have no idea how much exactly would be that "enough") he would start noticing even small differences.  Reply