Coalitions of Kruger National Park

[Potato]

"Are you implying that the loss of an antelope or buffalo could have the same impact the loss of a lion would have"

I am implying that other animals suffer, feel pain the same way lions do and I do not see reason why should I feel more compassion for the suffering lion than a suffering buffalo. What is the logic behind supporting lions and no any other animals?

" For starters the numbers of lions is but a small fraction of the numbers of the animals they prey upon. Just as we have seen with sea lions, whitetail deer, or any countless other examples, if the shark population decreases drastically the sea lion population increases beyond the capabilities of the surrounding food sources often leading to starving animals, or if certain areas minimize or eliminate hunting of whitetail deer, the numbers of these animals increases exponentially, and such increases have been proven to be detrimental to the area's population of the species as a whole."

That is exactly why we should leave nature to balance it self. Nature was balancing itself perfectly for a milions of years before humans appeared and will do perfectly fine in that regard without human. Human interventions can just broke it. 

"Whereas the loss of a single male lion can quite directly lead to the loss of many cubs and even some lionesses, and given the much smaller numbers of the lions this could have a much more detrimental impact on so many others in the surrounding areas. Comparing the two is quite simply apples and oranges. The loss of a single lion is far more consequential than the prey he may take as a result of prolonging his life."


Well... Kruger has already quite long history and you can see how the lion population is doing under it policy and that is perfectly healty.

"Using that example, the Majingilanes, and since we have not heard specific numbers claimed as we have with the 100 reportedly killed by the Mapogos, the Mapogos absolutely did not sire 100 cubs"

I do not understand what has that got to do with Kruger's policy. Such big, overpowered coalitions, killing what gets in their way will appear here and there from time to time no matter what policy Kruger would use.

" and I somehow doubt that the Majingilanes "History's most brutal killers" sired more cubs than the numbers they killed as well. "

I think they did. They did not killed that much cubs and sired cubs in 7 different prides.

"However, to imply that the act of prolonging a lion's life will have the same negative impact on prey species, that the death of said lion will have on the lion population is simply not true. In fact, the deaths of too many lions will have a greater negative impact on prey species due to the increase in those populations and the inability for the surrounding lands to maintain proper levels of food sources for them. That has been shown to lead to starvation and disease. The effects of a lions death reverberates through the surrounding areas, and to the lion population in general, whereas the death of an antelope or buffalo is not nearly as consequential to that species as a whole."

Through Magopo era 60% of lion population in Sabi Sands disappeared and what came out of it? Nature will balance itself perfectly fine and human involvement can only cause problems. Reply