The Birmingham Males

[Mapokser]

(08-03-2022, 09:02 AM)afortich Wrote:

(08-03-2022, 08:45 AM)Mapokser Wrote:

(08-02-2022, 12:13 AM)afortich Wrote:

(08-01-2022, 11:58 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:

(08-01-2022, 10:59 PM)afortich Wrote: Old and interesting video of Nhenha stopping Kambula pride from killing the Tsalala queens.
Nhenha always a gentleman!!

This ‘incident’ is what awoke my deep interest in studying the histories of Tsalala and the Birminghams…..until then, I really was only lurking on the periphery of Kruger lions

The same here bro. 
After this, I wanted to know more about Tsalala pride but what I couldn't figure out was how Tsalala and the Kambula pride are related, as mentioned in the video.

4 lionesses were born in the Tsalala pride by Mlowathi/Mapogos in I guess 2009. In 2010 the Majingilane attacked the pride after killing one of the Mapogos. One Tsalala female escaped with the 4 younger lionesses and raised them, these 4 lionesses would be later known as the Mangheni or Tsalala Breakaway pride.

The 4 lionesses had 6 female cubs with the Majingilane and they broke away from their mothers just like their mothers did with the original Tsalala Pride. These 6 and their descendents are what we call the Kambula pride.

Thanks for the info. 
So it seems that they are far relatives, I thought Tsalala queen was closer to Kambulas to the point that may have interacted before the encounter in the video.

Yeah, she was like a distant aunt to the Kambulas or something, there's no way they would have known that though, but well one of the Mangheni was attacked by her own mother when the Tsalala that took cared of them tried to rejoin the pride ( the Tsalala was accepted by her sisters, but not the cubs, the Tsalala who raised them protected the cub from her own mother ) and later the same Tsalala who raised the Mangheni was killed by them... So lions are unpredictable, never mind Manghenis and Kambulas who are descendends from very aggressive males, IIRC the Kambulas also attacked one of their Mangheni mothers once, but at least they didn't kill her. Reply