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(01-28-2022, 03:54 AM)Pckts Wrote: It’s not a matter of taking the word or not but understanding if it’s over the curves or not, this is very important. The odds of none of the captive Amurs used not being close to the same size as Mazaks Tigers are slim, the data base is quite large.
The largest captive Amurs on record would be Gamin and Kistora, I wonder if Craig has their claw measurements.
I clearly said that the measurement is on the curve of the claw, many times. Did you read that part?
To confirm, in the book "Der Tiger", page 30 (I have the book of 2013, which is the reprint of the edition of 1983, in German), he says "The claw length can reach 80 to 100 mm measured on the outer curve". He put the same in his document of 1981:
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So yes, he did measured claws of tigers, and the measuremnt was taken over the curve, like I said before.
I don't think that many captive Amur tigers reached the sizes of "Amur" the large tiger of Prague, that was a real giant. Gamin and Kistora were heavy, but are they large overall too? Did you know they measurements and how they compare with the two tigers called "Amur" from Prague and Duisburg zoo? That will be interesting to know.
Maybe it got lost in the translation but I didn’t see you clearly state it.
Regardless, we agree, it’s over the curves.
In regards to Gamin and Kistora, I know Kistora was actually taller than the Duisburg male. Kistora being 44” at the shoulder and Gamin had a 14.1cm pugmark.
Unfortunately the details of protocol are lacking but Craig is generally open to share if asked.