The Matimba coalition

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(02-18-2023, 02:55 PM)DE_66 Wrote: I definitely respect your eyes when it comes to lion IDs.  Numerous times you've pulled up an obscure picture and IDed a lion off of ear nicks and whisker pattersn that I can barely see.  That skill is highly useful for identifying an individual lion, but we can't trust it for determining paternity because of the way genes work. 

And all lions look so much alike.  Wasn't it just last week that many members (myself included) thought that video was of Nhena.  After someone pointed out the scars and age don't seem match, most of us got confused.  I'm still not sure and I watched it several times.  There's been other times when a Masai Mara lion has been misidentified as a KNP lion and vice versa.  If we're having troulbe IDing living lions, how can we determine who they sired based off looks?  

Im talking about specific cases. 

Where we know who are the fathers or who, so we can determinante which males sired which son, based of looks. 

Im not talking about claiming that 1 lion sired another because they are similar, when they have no connections and are in different parts of Kruger. Ofc there are similar, unrelated lions in Kruger, that doesnt mean they are related, just as there is some twin humans out there who look just like me and you. 

Im not saying that Nhenha sired Maputo male because they are similar lol. Im saying that when we know that Nhenha sired Kambula young males, we can see which male he sired, if some of them are more similar to him or his brothers. 

(02-18-2023, 02:55 PM)DE_66 Wrote: We haven't even brought up the mothers' genes in all of this.  Tinyo wasn't a Skybed son, but, thanks to his mothers, he had that Skybed look IMO. 

Mothers genes plays a part, just as fathers, but no, Tinyo/Mfumo/Scrapper doesnt have Skybeds look only because of their mothers, they look like this because 1 of their fathers aswell, this male :

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(02-18-2023, 02:55 PM)DE_66 Wrote: None of the West Street Males had mohawks, but Mr. T did.  None of the Matimbas had a mohawk, but Mohawk Mbiri does.  None of the Mayambula Coalition has a mohawk even though one of their fathers does. 

(02-18-2023, 02:55 PM)DE_66 Wrote: The Ross Males aren't exactly big lions, but IMO some of their sons look like they're gonna be pretty big thanks to those Old Birmingham Males and Skybed genes.

Well yea i agree, you or I maybe dont have big beard or hair like our fathers, or we are bigger/smaller then them, but or facial structure is quite similar to our parents. 

As i said, im not saying we can determinante every lion, who is his father or son, based of looks, but in some cases we can. Reply