The Mighty Mapogos

[Mapokser]

(01-22-2023, 12:46 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @Mapokser is there any evidence for what you are saying?

Did all Mapogos went east far as MalaMala and Nkorho (where KT was killed) to fight Majingilanes??

Or did they clash around central Sabi Sands, where was boundary between western Mapogos and Mluwatis? 

Tsalalas hanged in Londolozi, which was their boundary, western Mapogos didn't hang further east of that. 

As I said, there is definitely evidence that rest of Mapogos clashed with Majingilanes after KT death and when Majingilanes claimed Mluwatis territory, but I dont think that western Mapogos, lead by MrT, tried to return that territory back, as there was no reason for them to do it, as they didn't hang there. 

Im not sure about Tsalalas, but if western Mapogos did hang with them, and lost them to Majingilanes, thats about it for what western Mapogos fight for, and that was in central Sabi Sands, on their boundary.

Idk why you are so against the idea Mr.T summoned them when this is exactly what it was reported:

As soon as he returns, he joins up with all others:

2 July – Reports on the web suggest that Mohawk is not just with his three brothers but with the 4. This makes it 5 males in the west.

And Londolozi assumes that they will fight off the Majingilane:

A massive force and potentially enough to fight off the new coalition.

Then, for the first time in many many months, all 5 move together onto Londolozi:

5 July– In the early hours of the night a lot of roaring could be heard north of the river in Marthly. A couple of guys went out at around 5am to investigate and were amazed to watch the 5 Mapogo moving through the clearings calling as they walked. They had come from the west and had moved onto Londolozi, the first time the brothers have been together as a unite at Londolozi for many many months.

And Londolozi ends up by saying Mr.T summoned them:

I also couldn’t help but notice that Mohawk was somewhat sidelined from the rest at the feeding frenzy. Could it be that he had gone west to summon the help of his brothers and in the process now takes on a slightly more submissive role? I guess we will have to watch this dynamic unfold as well.

https://blog.londolozi.com/2010/07/06/li...te-part-2/

They didn't hear any Majingilane roars, there were no Majingilanes in Londolozi around these days as Londolozi makes no mentions of them, but mention all other lions there: The Tsalalas, the 2 Sparta Breakaways and their cubs, and the Mapogos. They weren't in Londolozi, never mind in Singita where the other Mapogos would have been able to hear roars. Simple put, Mr.T showed up, contact called, and led them east.

The other Mapogos had no idea the Majingilane existed at that point. They went to Londolozi, roared, and returned West. Still, no signs of the Majingilane in Londolozi:

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Then tell me, how did Mapogos heard Majingilanes roaring east of them and went to investigate if there were no Majingilane roaring there? The fact is they didn't, they moved east, surprisingly, together, after so many months, because Mr.T summoned them, but once they couldn't find Majingilanes, they returned to the West. Later that month for one reason or another the Mapogos got awareness of the Majingilane and at least one clash happened which left PB injured.

As for you your question of western Mapogos going far east, here 4 of them ( Makhulu, Dreadlocks, PB, and Mr.T ) at January 30th 2009 in Djuma:

Isn't Djuma east enough? Are gou gonna say if Gijimas or the Manyeleti males showed up there the western Mapogos wouldn't engage because Djuma is as far as you get from the Western Sector?

Mapogos in Mala Mala helping in the takeover of the Styx pride:

August 2008

It seems the Mapogos found the Styx pride with their 11 cubs on Aug 10th. It was said the 5 male lions didn’t pay much attention to the lionesses until they noticed the cubs.

On another Aug 2008 encounter between the Styx Pride and the Mapogos the Styx didn’t fare as well. The encounter was with 3 Mapogo males and the adult lionesses had an aggressive fight with them.

https://wildearth.tv/2009/06/styx-pride-of-lions/

Video of 5 Mapogos attacking the Styx Pride in Mala Mala:

So again, explain to me how are they not helping out the Mlowathi far east of their established western territory?

It's very clear that the 5 Mapogos went east because Mr.T summoned them, and considering that at the end of may 5 Mapogos were together deep in the west, had the Mlowathi contact called and led the others east, they would follow.

Western Mapogos didn't help against Manyeletis, Toulons, or Gijimas who even ousted Mlowathi from Djuma. They didn't help because Mlowathi never led them there and because they weren't visiting at the specific time the conflict, but as shown in the examples above, if they are either called or visiting, they will join the fray, they wouldn't be like "sorry Mlowathsi, but Mala Mala is not our territory so you may as well attack the Styx Pride alone", or "we heard no roars east of us, Mr.T, there're no lions east of Singita threatening us, so we won't follow, stop contact calling and moving east".

Same with Avocas, as I mentioned before, had Imbali showed up the day Mohawk was eating with Talamatis and DM, both brothers would obviously chase the rival away, Mohawk wouldn't be like "not my territory, sorry". Reply