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(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: 2004 - dispersed from sparta pride
2005 - nomad life
I do not remember exactly. As far as I remember Mak, PB and Rasta left the natal pride some time ealier than rest.
(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: 2006 - killed (or forced out) Nhlanguleni & took over Othawa and Ximhungwe pride?
They took over Othawa and Sand River prides. Ximhungwe pride was avoiding Mapogos untill 2009.
(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: 2007- killed Tsalala Pride male "rocky" and took Tsalala pride
They killed Tsalala pride dominant male and pride's cubs, but did not mated with females untill 2008 when they split and Estern MApogos mated with Tsalala females.
(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Travelled north, killed Blondie and took over Nkuhuma pride
They tookover part of Nkuchuma pride and the other part ran away to Manyeleti with other Nkuchuma male - Dozie
(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: and styx
Mapogos did not manage to take over Styx pride. THey did not manage to hunt down and kill Styx pride and the pride therefore was avoiding Mapogos. Those females of the pride which did not have cubs were mating with Estern Mapogos in 2009-2010.
(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: 2012 - Mr T killed, Mak and PB fled into Kruger
Mak and PB fled to Sabi Sabi. Only few months later they headed into Kruger.
(07-11-2021, 03:13 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Also what year was each pride lost?
Nkuchuma pride in 2009 to Gijima males, Tsalala, Sparta and Styx to MAjingis in 2012 and Othawa and Ximunghwe in 2012 to Salatis.
Which part of the Nkuhuma Pride did they take over? I’m pretty sure the Nkuhumas weren’t even around and Blondie was killed only in Dec 2007:
“In December of 2007, one of the dominant males, Blondie, was killed by the Mapogo male lions. Attacks on the remaining pride and cubs during the first half of 2008 devastated our pride. Many cubs fell victim to the attacks as did some of the adult lionesses too. The pride took refuge back up North and became splintered.”
Some members of the Nkuchuma pride were still moving around Djuma after Blondie's death. There is not enough source around to make it clear I think. It is possible that Mapogos only took over teritory around Djuma and did not manage to take any part of Nkuchuma pride, but I believe they had to have some sort of control over part of that pride. Sadly there is very little WildEarth videos available from 2008 and 2009. There is quite a few tho shoing that some Nkuchumas were still present in Djuma in 2009. There wasn't any tho of Nkuchumas being together with Mapogos or at least I could not find it.