The Mighty Mapogos

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(05-20-2021, 04:20 AM)Potato Wrote:

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(05-19-2021, 06:13 AM)Mauro Wrote: In the documentary brothers in blood they show several fights, how many of them are really the mapogo who come out there? I mean the ones they show apart from the fight against the Majingilanes.

Only this one:

tho in documentry it was presented as Mr T vs Makhulu fight from 2008, while in fact it was Mr T vs Pretty Boy from 2011.

I don't think that takeover ever happens if Dreadlocks hadn't been poached, or if Rasta hadn't disappeared either, for that matter. Mak was old and battle worn, and PB just wasn't going to beat T.

Idk which take over you are talking about. What it comes to Majingilanes then their takeover was already made when they killed KT. Western Mapogos were contend in western sector and would rather not contest Majingilanes taking central Sabi Sands. If you talk abou Salati's takeover then obviously Mapogos lands would be much harder to contest if Rasta and/or Dreadlocks would be around. Probably in such case Salatis would just dodge Mapogos and would try to takeover other, easier piece of land to the south or to the east from Sabi Sands.

The takeover in the video you just posted, when T took control of the pride from Mak and PB. Although brothers, and coalition members, that was their pride before he fought them, and began killing all their cubs.

They were single coalition and so they controlled their territory and prides together. When this video was made the cubs in the pride were already killed off by Mr T. Pride lionesses came back in oestrus and the Mapogos were fighting each others for mating right - for who gets the female first.

They may have become a single coalition, once again, following the death of KT, and though the Mlowathis and the Mapogos may have met up on occasion, they were not at that time breeding with each others females, they were behaving in that sense as two separate coalitions. That is, of course, until T returned and was welcomed back into the fold, but it wasn't until after this fight that he became the dominant male. Perhaps the killing of the cubs was a sign that decision had been made for the most part, but it wasn't until after this fight that it was clear. That's what I meant by takeover, which was a poor choice of words on my part, but was referring to T becoming the dominant male of the bunch. Mak and PB, or any of the others for that matter, would have walked into Mlowathi territory and began mating with their lionesses, not without a similar battle taking place. Point I was making was that I do not believe T becomes the dominant male if Dreadlocks or Rasta were still alive.

However, we could go on with the would of, could of, should of, line of thinking until the cows come home, when it comes to this particular coalition. It seems some sites and pages are often dedicated to near constant conversations regarding what may have happened if Mapogo *A* didn't die, or perhaps Mapogo *B* did die, all questions we will obviously never know the answers to, and here, sadly, I find myself contributing to the exact same conversation. The bottom line, for as much territory, and as many prides as they controlled, they were not very successful at creating a lasting legacy. There are many single males, not to mention the many coalitions who were also far more successful, that have actually contributed more to future generations than these guys did, and the Mapogos are my favorite coalition simply for the fact they they were the impetus behind my interest in lions to begin with. Part of that can be attributed to T's rampage, but certainly not all of it, not even close. Reply